Kerry Cassidy (K): Hi. This is Kerry Cassidy and
Bill Ryan from Project Avalon and Project Camelot. Today is September
23rd, 2008, and we're here with George Green, and we're very
happy to be talking with him today.
why don’t you update us as to what’s going
on with the U.S. economy and possibly some other things?
Green (G): Kerry, the economy is kind of an oxymoron
today, because it’s all coming apart at the seams. One
of the problems that we have today is the definition of money,
which nobody can identify, frankly, and the meltdown of not
only the dollar but trade throughout the whole world.
Many countries – and I just talked to some other ones – are
not willing to take the dollar in exchange for goods at this
China and Russia are meeting right now, trying to create some
new kind of basis of a currency they can use for exchange.
The Russian warships are -- these are nuclear warships -- are
heading down towards Venezuela. We just got through having
one of the Russian drones over Georgia, just shot down by Georgia.
That was just a couple hours ago. We also have warships moving
into the Mediterranean.
the dollar itself: The bailout program is
unprecedented because they’re talking about giving away,
my sources are saying, up to a trillion and a half dollars
-- if they can find a buyer for this currency -- to liquidate
private industry, basically, and protect the bankers.
Mae / Freddie Mac people... I mean, they’ve
taken out like 100 million dollars just for their own personal
benefit, their houses and everything else, before this debacle
what do you think this movement to Venezuela of Russian warships
is all about?
G: Well... I’m trying an overview. If you’ve
got the world meltdown happening, you’ve got politics
happening, both of the so-called candidates for the presidency
trying to keep people really confused, Kerry. This situation
is that we have...
We’re kind of like the old thing, “a barrel going
over Niagara Falls”? Well, we’ve gone over Niagara
Falls. Now the question: Is it gonna hit?
have a bankrupt country, a bankrupt currency, what are other
countries gonna do with that to accept goods if we’re
gonna have some?
know they’re not going to transfer. I mean,
that’s obvious, when China said, Look, if you want
to buy our goods, you pay us in some other currency.
question is, how do you transfer a dollar to some other currency,
since all the other countries are afraid? Meanwhile, the
crew – Paulson, etc. – are working with the
banks up there to protect the bankers.
get the next problem: The American public for,
you know, a long time has been geared up that stocks are money.
Well, they’ve been a trading vehicle, but they’re
really not money. That’s just a gambling casino that’s
set up here. We trade a piece of paper, you know, allegedly
saying it’s worth something.
they can arbitrarily move, like they did a week ago, United
Airlines stock down to where it was basically worthless in
one day and then bring it back up again, you know they’re
manipulating the game.
And that’s the Plunge Committee in New York. The Plunge
Committee – they’re members of the Federal Reserve
and the Treasury Department, to make sure that the market doesn’t
collapse all the way. And I’m predicting the market’ll
go back down to 8,500 here very shortly.
it’s down again today and it will continue,
though, because people are gonna try... They’re
running to liquidity. The next thing they’re looking
to is to get physical possession of something. That’s
the reason why gold and silver right now is hard to get ahold
It’s not a question of being there. I was at the Silver
Conference the last couple of days with the world silver mines.
The problem is, like, silver’s trading roughly... to
buy it’s around $14 today. The problem is that the processed
silver, if you want to look at it, or fabricated silver, is
hard to get. I can get all kinds of 1000-ounce bars, but you
can’t use that for trading stock.
I just got notification that a couple countries in Latin
America are considering creating their own currency now because
the dollar’s going down. They’re actually
working on it this minute. I’m working on a couple of ’em,
with a couple of the countries down there, to try to get gold
and silver as the backing for their currency, to make it what
we call a substantial thing. As long as they’re
willing to take the dollar, then you can trade it.
other things that are happening: Many people
are trying to acquire the raw materials. Well, raw materials
may be two months’ delivery or three months’ delivery.
That’s the basis of the options right now, or people
the meltdown of the market that we’re looking
at. And the meltdown of the people looking at: What’s
a piece of paper called a stock worth? And how can they manipulate
an emergency, if you lived in a house right now and you had
to go sell it today, and if there’s no lenders
out there, what does that mean?
exactly is going to happen if the dollar is basically not
transferable around the world? In other words, they won’t
take it? Then who cares what...? I mean, I don’t
even know how the stock market can be holding its own within
a situation like that.
G: Well, it can’t. All you have to do is trade
100 shares in a stock, Kerry. You took 100 shares. That’ll
give you an arbitrary value of all the rest of the millions
that are out there. So just a few shares traded between a couple
of brokers, without manipulating the market as such, will tell
everybody, This is really good.
a company that makes money in the stock market. The stock
market is just stocks trading between each other. The physical
reality... You have people like General Motors
and Ford, and whatever, are asking for a 25 billion dollar
bailout in this new program they’re trying to put together
in the bailout of the bankers themselves. And yet they want
the American taxpayer to take it over, but they’re not
telling you the truth.
30 – I think we’ve mentioned it before
-- is the fiscal year of the United States. Well, that’s
only, you know, less than a week away. Right? The question
that they have is, when they admit debt, if they admit it --
because nobody has ever audited this material -- they don’t
tell you what the debt is from next year, and the next year,
because they make these long-term commitments in bonds.
is, and my feeling is, that we’re probably
a couple hundred trillion in derivatives out to the wind right
now, which is basically the collapse and the bankruptcy of
the United States. And if we go bankrupt...
the reason why I think the Bank for International Settlements
is so important. They want to audit the Federal Reserve,
because the Federal Reserve has been pushing money out, keeping
our country going -- 2 billion dollars a day!
If they’re doing that, then the next question is, what
does the little guy on the street do? And I’m urging
them, if they have some old appliances, go buy some new ones
right now to get ready for when this meltdown happens, there
won’t be any distribution of goods.
are telling me, like K-Mart and Sears aren’t
declaring their sales right now because they’re so far
down. Now, they’ve come out of bankruptcy -- you know
they merged -- and I expect them to go back into bankruptcy.
I was at
a meeting with the shopping center people. 40% of the shopping
centers right now are basically empty. They’re
running out of people. In order to pay their rents they'll
have to find a way to bring in a lot more people. So
we have a combination problem that is just melting down in
front of everybody.
Now what can we do about it? Get your food stored up.
K: We actually got a communiqué last
night saying that people around the country are having trouble
actually buying gas. Have you heard that?
G: Yes. Of course. Two things: The gas is available.
It’s the problem of the distribution of it because of
electricity, and the trucks, and the rest of it, getting it
across the country. So we know that gasoline is gonna go up
We’ll probably be on par with Europe before long, $8
or $9 a gallon -- if we can get it. We’re still importing
70% of our gasoline products in the United States. If we were
to start a new refinery in the United States, it would be 3-1/2
to 4 years before it’d come to fruition.
how do you get this stuff processed? Most of the oil in Alaska,
for instance, goes on huge tankers to Japan, which basically,
it’s kept them afloat, because they
process that high-sulfur oil.
Latin America has been selling their oil to Mexico. Mexico
imports 40% of its oil right now, and the, what do you call
it, the peak oil. So it will probably be out of oil itself
within the next 4 to 5 years. Not that they don’t have
agreements with Brazil and other ones to do offshore drilling.
They just don’t have the ability to transfer it. And
they’re exporting 30% of what they import. And what they’re
doing is marking up the oil prices back to the United States.
wild card in this is China. China’s coming
in with, you know, 140... well, they have trillions of
dollars. They have a trillion-400-billion dollars. And they
had 400 billion invested in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And
they’re very upset about this. In fact, their military
said if the dollar collapses, they will consider it an act
about the Japanese? I thought the Japanese were set to bail
us out on some level.
G: Well, the Japanese have... Between Japan and
China, they have over a couple trillion dollars of our debt.
So how do you bail it out with IOUs? See, that’s all
we’re doing, is trading debt for debt.
G: The whole thing is in debt. So maybe we owe them.
They’ve been buying our treasuries to keep us afloat.
Well, they’ve already got treasuries. They don’t
have any more themselves because their economy is in trouble
This is a world meltdown right now. Many countries
are upset about the thing. There are very few of them that
are very stable. Even Switzerland right now is... They’re
getting all kinds of money that’s being transferred to
them for so-called safety. Well, when they get the money transferred,
where do they put it? You understand? We have this...
do you mean, where do they put it?
if you put a million dollars into a bank, a bank only operates
because if they can loan it out. Where would they loan it
to? You know, what instruments are out there that would be
considered safe enough to say, Hey, I’m
gonna save your money. But what if the dollar is in with
all the denominations?
bank down in Florida will take your dollar and put it into
a basket of currency. Now you have to figure out which country
you want to have your “currency” in,
or your money. They’ll float it back and forth.
that’s a good way of safety. The trouble is,
all the countries are having troubles right now. What is a
safe currency? And that’s something you have to really
K: Isn’t the overall agenda... This is part
of the whole Illuminati agenda to bring down the US dollar
and the US in general, so that they can put in the One World
government. And all the currencies are going to be at risk
in a One World government, basically, because until they decide
whatever that One World currency is going to be... I mean,
aren’t we just looking at something like that down the
G: Well, Kerry, there are two things that go down. If
they can get everybody diverted, looking at the money meltdown,
then the next step is gonna happen within -- and I predict
that they’ll probably call a national emergency -- but
they’re gonna begin WW III.
a happening stance. Since we’ve got the world
out of whack, we got everybody confused, let’s get a
world war going. So WW III is ready. And this is all part of
their population reduction program.
K: Right. So you distract the population. I mean, obviously... Our
thought was they were going to distract the population with
the war such that the currency would... You know,
they’d take their eyes off the currency. Because, at
least in the United States, people are going to be focused
on the economy. That’s always first on their list. Right?
If we go to war with another country, they’re not... They’re
gonna look over there, but basically their concern is going
to be with the economy.
G: Well, the transfer of goods, exactly right. But remember,
foreign countries aren’t going to take the dollar. So
we’re going to have two types of dollars, one foreigners
are going to look at -- whatever that’s gonna be secured.
Right now they’re confused because they don’t want
to take them.
one is the one that you and I are going to be trading here
in the stores temporarily. Meanwhile, when I was with the
head of a supermarket chain the other day, he’s expecting
produce and stuff to go up 40% over the next 90 days. In other
words you’ve been able to buy, you know, a dozen oranges
for a dollar. Now they’re a dollar apiece.
K: So where does it end? We’re looking sort of
down a tunnel and I see that they’re trying to get certain... I
mean, it’s like playing with Monopoly money at this point.
G: Well, I’ve said this before. It’s a huge
Monopoly game, but they own the game. Now, how they’re
making the steps and how they’re putting it together?
I was with
a Congressman yesterday for lunch, you know, a representative,
and we were discussing that their information I’m getting from Washington -- these are the Washington
representatives -- they say in 6 months you won’t recognize
the American currency. This is what I’m getting directly
from the Senators.
K: OK. So you’re talking about food shortages,
no transportation of food. Is this what we’re looking
G: That’s exactly correct. Also, since most of
the goods that we have in the supermarkets, or Wal-Mart or
whatever, the physical items... If you’ve got a
toaster that’s ten years old or that’s on the blink,
go out and buy a new one, because they won’t be available.
I mean, you can buy ’em real cheap right now.
your dollar into some kind of asset. And gold and silver,
for instance, has always been the situation. There’s
plenty of silver available. However, there’s only a 5-month
supply of silver in the world market, if you look at the world
market on all this stuff.
The trouble with silver right now is the fabricated products.
the treasury is way behind on producing it. It’s only
producing a little bit of the Gold Eagle, which is exempt
under the Patriot Act.
have all kinds of regulations that they’re
getting ready to put in right now. For instance, PayPal. PayPal
is a payment organization that’s used on eBay. PayPal
had so much cash it invested into the market itself. So you
tell me how substantial their asset base is. If you’ve
got PayPal accounts, get them into cash.
K: Yeah. Well, what happens if... I
mean, my understanding is that WAMU [Washington Mutual] owns
PayPal and WAMU is basically in the tank. It could go under
what happens to PayPal when WAMU goes down?
G: Then what we’re gonna have is... That’s
another quasi-banking thing, and that’s what they’re
looking at in Washington right now with this new bailout of
all of the so-called financial intuitions. Well, PayPal is
a private organization and they’re trying to bail out
all these things to keep it even, transfer of goods and stuff.
But it’s not going to be even now.
We’re gonna have all kinds of meltdowns just like you’re
talking about. People are going to have gasoline or they’re
not gonna have it.
for instance, downtown, well, the Galleria, they had no power
until yesterday, within two blocks of the Galleria, for weeks
since the storm. There’s amazing economic consequences
to all of this. People are just not traveling. They’re
not doing anything, and then the storms are messing up. We
don’t have the money to take care of it.
I don’t know if you know this. The stuff that happened
in Florida five years ago in the last storms down there --
these cities haven’t been rebuilt. There’s no money.
And then they’re asking for people to come out under
this new bailout program, no source of security to get a loan,
that is, if the property would qualify, just to keep an illusion
of money out there that they can sell to somebody else that
we’re already in debt to. That’s foreign governments.
And now Paulson said on TV, Hey,
we’re gonna bail
out the foreign banks that have our paper. Now, when
are the American people gonna wake up to what’s going
game is over. Somebody else owns it, and somebody else is
gonna be answering to a higher power. And the American people?
They’re just pawns in the game.
K: Who is this “higher power”? That’s
what we want to know. And where are they going to run with
it next? You’re talking also about layoffs, aren’t
you, in companies? Because at this point it’s kind of
hidden from the American people, but I think that obviously
there’s gotta be a huge unemployment rate.
G: Kerry, the real reality is, when they lay off people
or buy them out or whatever they’re doing across the
country, they’ve left this big gap. Our problem in the
United States is that 50% of the people, or half, you know,
150 million people, are over age 50. Where are these people
gonna go? Because all their pension funds are gone.
They’re going to be looking to Social Security and Social
Security funds are gone. They’ve been all borrowed by,
again, the Treasury. They issue ’em IOUs back to Social
Security, so it’ll keep it going for a while. But this
whole thing is coming apart in every direction.
Peoples’ pension funds, like the airlines, their pension
funds are gone. All the automobile companies’ pension
funds were sold, or transferred, basically, to the unions up
there, but they weren’t feasible anyway.
Inflation... and they don’t tell the people the
truth on that. It’s the old story, you know, Figures
don’t lie, but liars figure.
you just said, there’s massive unemployment.
I don’t have the exact figures. We’ve been trying
to get to those. But we expect that that’s over 14%,
the same as the inflation rate. The inflation rate’s
you’ve got an arbitrary rate of 12%, if you want
to, that means the goods will cost in 6 years twice as much
as they will today -- at 12%. That also means the dollar will
go down, and that value will be worth 50 cents on the dollar.
So what can you have that offsets that? Well, you have to have
a 24% return to break even!
between inflation and return -- that only means one thing:
Total collapse of the system as we know it. For instance,
right now as you and I are talking, the Dow’s down 120-some
points. Gold and silver are off slightly because this is controlled
by the option market. But the truth is...
you can do to acquire physical gold and physical silver and
hold it, because that’ll be your trading stock.
K: But you can’t eat money. Right? So, in the
end... I mean, I can see how we can trade these dollars
even though they don’t mean much outside the country.
But if I’m traveling, what happens to my dollar when
I go overseas? Because I will be going overseas shortly, and
I want to transfer that into another currency. Are they gonna
allow it? Obviously the worth of the dollar is gonna be down.
You say it’s maybe 50 cents on the dollar. But is it
actually 50 cents on the dollar outside the country, or is
G: Well, it’s worse. It’s up to the country
and it’s up to the banks that transfer it. Most everything
runs through Chase right now, transferring through the world,
and what they’re doing is, anything over $10,000, they’re
really checking it out even if they’ll allow the transfer.
believe it or not, I went over to Bank of America, which
is a small place. By the way, they’re in the top
100 list of banks that may fail, according to the FDIC. I pulled
out $2,500 in cash in small bills, because I didn’t want
anything over a 50, because 100s aren’t accepted overseas,
so what you look at...
I was trying to get the bills, but I took all their cash!
Now, it happened to be an oddball time. They said, Wait
till Monday. We’ll get our new supply of money.
But they don’t have it.
what they’re looking at... We’re
looking at the system. People are offering, you know, debit
cards, this kind of stuff, but that’s also the same kind
of a deal. How does MasterCard and Visa, since that’s
the world’s money, you can use it anywhere right now.
either created by debts or they’re created
by debits, one way or the other -- now to transfer to other
countries, which is the real problem, and in what currency?
Now, that’s up to the Bank for International Settlements
who controls all of this stuff out of Switzerland.
K: OK. But are we still in the state where they’re
not coming in until after George Bush leaves office?
the Bank for International Settlements got approval to audit
the Federal Reserve after Bush gets out of office.
the definition of out of office? As
soon as the election’s over? What if he calls a national
emergency or we get a war started? Then all of that, his agreements,
then become moot because a) He won’t be out of office;
b) We won’t have an election and at that point we’ll
become a socialist state.
K: We understand that the possibility that the election
may be postponed for several months is a real one. I mean,
I’m sure you’ve heard about the “October
Surprise”, the things that are going around about October.
Have you heard anything personally from your insiders about
this particular month and some of the things that might be
G: Well, again, October is merely the date because it’s
right before the election time. And so they’re going
to make some kind of plans that come up. And, Kerry, I’ll
probably know more in the next couple weeks. They’re
more concerned right now with the economic main stream and
how to keep the people asleep. [Kerry laughs] Seriously.
G: And people are totally asleep. They have no idea.
They go on about their business. They’ll still run down.
And my comment from the people, even my own kids: It’ll
be OK. They’ll get it all taken care of. And they
want to keep on living in la-la land.
K: But it’s a fallacy. I mean, this thing called “bailout” is
absolutely an illusion. There’s nothing behind the bailout.
G: No. But they’re creating... giving one
man total power of about a trillion-and-a-half dollars? I mean,
they’re asking for 750 or 800 billion dollars today.
the congressmen are starting to look at the thing, because
how can you tell in 24 hours what is going to go on and how
they’re going to give this money out?
it’s a debt, then who’s going to give them
the money to do that? They say: Well, we’re going
to get rescued from foreign countries.
probably know Barclay’s and a couple of other
ones who were gonna pick up some of the main street houses
at the last minute on a Sunday... All of a sudden they’re
merged in with Bank of America or somebody else and foreign
governments were willing to come in to protect themselves.
now that’s off the table. There isn’t
going to be any protection of the dollar from plunge. And whatever
Bernanke and etc., and Paulson, are saying now, we’re
going to go ahead and protect foreign banks.
So what’s happening is the whole world’s
melting down, as you and I are talking about, and how are
we gonna be able to exchange goods?
It’s the old story of being over in Hawaii... I
have friends there. When they get goods, it all comes in on
a ship. Well, if the ship doesn’t come in, how are they
gonna survive on these little islands? That’s the whole
K: Right. Islands are gonna be in real dire straits.
So what is going on? I mean, from your perspective, like... Let’s
stand back even further and look at it from a spiritual perspective.
Are you getting any information from your contacts?
G: Oh what... You
mean off planet?
Pleiadians or whatever.
G: No. My contacts are above the Pleiadians. And what
they’re basically saying is get ready for WW III, which
is going to last about 4 years and 3 months.
K: How can we go to war, though? I mean, is this going
to be the bailout for the US economy, like it’s been
in the past? In other words, to rev up the military machine?
I mean, my experience has told me that a lot of the military
companies are doing better than they’re ever done before.
I mean, they’re building and they’re selling. And
this war machine – massively -- all over the world; deals
for high tech machinery and planes and what-not.
G: Well, that’s it. Get the war going again and
everybody’s got the products to be able to do all this
stuff. The problem, again, is will it begin WW III? That’s
part of the population reduction program.
they put the Guidestones up there in Georgia that say... Hey, they’ve done it already. Right? They
want to get 500 million people, 20 million Americans. There’s
300 million people in the United States. And in the end, the
United States is basically bankrupt.
we’ve done is taken most of the world’s
goods on debt and said, Yeah, other countries have allowed
this. Well, they worked on a trade and hoping there would
be some stability.
come China and Russia are meeting today as we speak, trying
to create something new? They have economies that are going
up. They have more people, well, as you know, about 4.5 times
the population in China alone, and half of them are basically
middle class at this point. And they’re able to export
goods because we’re buying ’em. And the same thing
K: Right. But if we’re not buying those goods
because we can’t afford it, what happens then?
G: Well, we have 4% of the world’s population?
Forget it. Goodbye United States. That’s the end of a
200-year so-called democracy that’s at the end of its
cycle. It’s kind of like the end of the game. In order
to keep the game going, they’ve gotta get a war started.
Now, what’s gonna end up after that? Kerry, it appears
that we’re going to have massive confusion and it’s
probably gonna be smart, like what you guys are doing -- head
south to Australia where the inner circle’s gonna hide
K: Really? In Australia? I mean, we’re going there
for a conference, so, you know, we’re not going there
to live. But you’re saying that this might be a country
that is viable in the long term?
G: In the long run, that’s what they’re
looking at. It’s got a lot of problems down there, too,
you know, weather and everything else. But they will be able
to be viable. They’ll be in the southern hemisphere.
There won’t be the reactions from the nuclear radiation,
etc., down there. Because they’re planning...
tell you that they’re using nuclear right
now. They tell you that they’re moving a nuclear ship
down to Venezuela right now.
the Soviets. And they’re loaded. They have 22,000
nuclear warheads. There’s no treaty on the board. And
when Condoleezza Rice told the Soviets to lay off of Georgia
right now, they’re ignoring all of that, because they
know where the power is.
And Russia provides Europe with what? 65% of its energy from
oil and gas? They can shut that whole thing down right away.
It becomes a huge economic game.
But our understanding is that the ETs are not gonna allow
for nuclear war. What do you think about that?
G: Well, I’ve been told that. It bothers the ETs.
And you know, they have plans, too. And what they’re
looking at... Every time a nuclear bomb goes off, there’s
always, publicly we’ll hear about, there’s always
an ET craft around, monitoring it.
And we’re also in the process of, you know, Planet X
coming by in the next whatever it’s gonna be, 15 or 20
years which... That energy is gonna be affecting the planet,
So this is a pivotal point, the ending of this cycle, if you
want to, the end of this age and moving into the Aquarian Age.
of this information and data, I mean, you can get a lot of
it from the World Watch Institute in Washington, DC, on the
physical reality. Most people don’t care. I mean,
their mailing list is less than 5,000 people in the whole world.
They keep track of everything, the air, the water, the whole
The increase in the population today is over... I mean, use
your Google and Google population clock and you’d
be able to see that we’re at approximately 6.8 billion
people. The net increase is 200,000 a day, or 2 million every
10 days, or 5 million every month.
we’ve got 5,000 airplanes flying in the air
at 30- to 36-thousand feet, spewing out fumes and everything
else across the United States; 25,000 around the planet.
We’re just consuming all the goods, and what I call
the heat factor on the planet, and we’re reducing the
whole thing to a total mess. So they have to go ahead with
the Global 2000 agenda.
I say, I sat in on that, and that’s 30 years
ago. And remember, the plan was to get a war started in the
Middle East in the year 2000. Well, we haven’t seen it
open up yet but I betcha it’s gonna be coming up here.
And that may be your “October Surprise” that you’re
K: Well, we just interviewed Bob Dean. He’s also
talking about Planet X as a reality and that it’s incoming.
And he had some pretty outrageous information in regard to
that. He apparently is getting his own contact, ET contacts,
which he terms the Anunnaki. Apparently there’s a good
faction and a bad faction, just as Zecharia Sitchin was talking
about. And he’s also got insider contacts going way back
at the Pentagon and so on. And basically he says they’re
scared to death about the impact of Planet X.
G: Well, you know, we have to look at it. We were basically
engineered, if you want to look at it, by Anunnaki and other
extraterrestrials. I mean, our DNA can be really easily programmed.
And our government is totally aware of the DNA programming,
in fact, you know, putting down all of the factions of controlling
your size, shape, color, how long you’re going to live
and everything else.
all part of the situation. If you can get people to understand
that we were engineered, as a huge... basically
an experiment. Planet Earth is the prison planet. And are the
Anunnaki going to come back? And what are they going to do?
the question of the energies of the universe. And my understanding
is that in the next 30 years we’re going
to have a big changing on the planet, from the very physical
As my senator
says, within 6 months you won’t recognize
the dollar. Well then, in 6 months we’re going to be
in WW III. When’s it going to start? It could start this
weekend, the way things are heating up.
But October’s a good time, before the election. They
want to do it before the election, because, that way, whatever
the president we have in force, whether it’s Obama who
the Rockefellers want in or otherwise. Obama at this point
is favored in this thing, so they’ll get him in. But
he’s just there as a scapegoat. They really have no power.
K: We’ve been told also that Chertoff has sort
of a special position within this whole Illuminati roll-out.
Are you familiar with what he’s involved in and where
G: No. I don’t know what kind of payoffs that
they do. You know, when you start running around with the players
that are up on top... As Kissinger said, the absolute
aphrodisiac is power. And so as long as you’re willing
to sit up in front and be responsible for it, they’ll
kind of like the old, you know, the Skull and Bones group.
When the Skull appoints you, you can run around within that
area, but you always put somebody else to be the fall-guy
And I’m not privy, frankly, to some of the information
that’s going on with Chertoff, nor am I privy to what’s
going on with the War College, if you want to look at it. But
I do have some people leaking out information to me occasionally.
My CIA friends are unfortunately out of the country right now.
They said they’re safe. [laughs]
K: OK. But do you really think that, for example, Ecuador
and South America is safe? I understand it’s safe from
the nuclear winds, so to speak.
are other issues down there, like, for example, if the economy
goes down, down there. And you’ve got
an indigenous population, and they’re not white, and
they’re easy to spot. You’ve got these communities
that basically are gonna become fortresses. Right?
And there’s also the issue about... the
volcanic question. Volcanoes get triggered by the movement
of Planet X getting closer and the sun getting triggered.
you know, I looked at all of Latin America. The only country
I have not visited at any time was Chile. The rest of them,
I can understand why, you know, like Bush just bought a bunch
of property in Paraguay. Ted Turner has all kinds of property
look at it, Ecuador is about the physical size of Colorado.
The volcanoes are active down there. Well, we have volcanoes
that are semi-active up here in some way. I mean, Yellowstone
Park is semi-active, if you look at it. I mean, it’s
venting all the time, so it keeps the pressure off.
we’re looking at down in Ecuador, you can pick
a climate, and pick an elevation, and pick a location away
from them. My understanding is that’s going to be OK.
The indigenous people, they kind of stay away from everything.
more European, ethnically, background, in Ecuador. Obviously
the problem with Ecuador is the language. It’s
all Spanish and unless you speak Spanish it’s a little
harder. And there are groups over there that are setting up.
But it’s a very friendly country. And you don’t
have the problems that you have in other ones where they’re
to Mexico City. When you go to Mexico City, you see everybody
has bars on their windows. I didn’t see
many of those anywhere in Ecuador. People there are not out,
you know... not that there‘s not petty thievery.
That’s everywhere. I mean, go to Washington, DC, in our
country. Right now there’s more people killed every month
by gunfire in Washington, DC, than in Iraq.
K: Really. That’s
G: Well, it’s true. And I won’t
go to Washington, DC, at night time and walk on the street.
You almost have to have a bodyguard. And they tell you that!
K: OK. But what about... I mean, you’re talking
about food shortages. You’re talking about the dollar
going down. I mean, South America has got to be affected by
that. Aren’t their economies going to be affected?
G: Well, I happen to know that... I just talked yesterday
with the people down in Ecuador and the president down there
is working on a new currency in order to replace the dollar.
I’m talking with people in Panama right now to create
something like that. Panama’s always been on the dollar.
There’s only three currencies in the world, you know,
and at this minute it’s been gold, oil, and drugs. And
I’m not in any one of those things other than buying
Oil – I am in the oil business indirectly because I
used to be an officer of King Resources, or, Recovery Resources.
That’s John King, which was the first oil billionaire,
that had the offshore oil up in Alaska. And we drilled oil
wells. I’ve done all the rest of it.
And oil – there’s plenty of oil – it’s
just the cost of getting it out of the ground. And the cost
today, from the physical point, is around $80 a barrel. Then
the other costs to it are the distribution and everything else
that’s going on to get the thing back up. And it’s
probably back up to $150 a barrel before long to get along
with the world at this minute.
Saudi Arabia walked away from OPEC meeting the other day,
just flat out walked away. Now, that’s setting
the prices on it. So when they start to...
news. Really, you have to tell everybody to look at it. It’s a huge play. Try to put together the pieces
that are going on as they feed to you in the news. Because
they feed you the information. It’s like a movie.
K: Yeah. It’s also reading between the lines,
especially when they protest too much. That’s when it
becomes really dangerous.
George, this is very disheartening in certain ways. Do you
have any tips for what may be called the Ground Crew? For
people that are awake, know what’s going on, and
actually what they can do?
G: Well, the only good suggestion I’ve had... I’ve
got people up in a little community up here, that’s kind
of Ground Crew people, that formed a community within the
community. And they’ve been advising all their friends,
because a lot of people won’t listen to them, as you
they’re doing is, though, they’ve set
it up. When everything falls apart, their little community
will be sustained by itself. Because you’re going to
have to have water and electricity and everything else.
the whole community will get behind a few people that know
what the knowledge is, because they’ll come forth
at that point. In other words, you’ve got a community
of 3 – 4,000 people, maybe there’s 50 or 100 that
know what’s really happening. They can organize themselves.
yourself as a target out here in a small community, but making
the whole community aware of it through whatever kind of
information they can transfer. Because that’s
do you think about the internet? How long is this going to
hang out there and be available to the average person, do
you think? Is that going to be affected by the dollar going
G: Oh, of course. They’re going to be at some
point shutting the thing down, the internet itself. It’s
like China won’t allow a lot of our information to go
over there. They shut it down. So you know it’s able
for them to shut it down. But also the power generation in
order to even get to it.
some of the internet for communications throughout the world.
You know, I use Skype, etc. I don’t know how
long that’s going to continue on.
happens, you’re going to see commerce basically
collapse because this has all changed. All the networks are
all going to the internet. We’re not gonna have program
TV other than through the internet.
K: Now, we have started this website called projectavalon.net
and we’ve got a forum on there. We’ve got people
exchanging information about resources, networking, building
small communities, this sort of thing. It’s really taking
off in a huge way. We’d love to have you come on there
and sort of advise people whenever you felt the inclination.
And certainly we’re going to be putting this audio interview
you were on Coast [coastocoastam.com] the other night, and
basically you’ve been out there for quite a long
time sort of trying to wake people up. Where are you at now
with all this, personally? Are you ready to leave the country?
Or are you still going to hang in here?
G: Well, the ETs told me to wait. But I am packed and
ready to go, and I’ve liquidated all my real estate holdings
that I’ve had. And I’m just in a preparation mode
to get ready to get away from harm’s way.
this minute I’m still planning on doing lectures
in different communities across the United States while I can
still go, because we still have to waken a few people up. There’s
a lot of people out here that will be awakened when the chaos
starts. And remember: Out of the chaos we’ll create something
do you feel that you can give any kind of sense of hope for
something that might emerge? In other words, waking the people
up is one thing.
We’re actually talking about group meditations and things
that can change the entire consciousness of the planet and
redirect the energy into a more positive place. Because once
you wake people up, that’s really what it’s about.
Do you think that that has any basis in the future? And have
you thought about that?
G: My understanding is that there’s
too few to make any significant difference. And the question
is on how you can be in direct contact, to act as the hands
and feet at this level, through the transition.
and prayer and asking for these things is generally on that
self-survival mode. And what we have to look at is a group
thing. What can we do? The planet’s gonna take
care of itself.
have to do is look at mankind, and how can we get information
and receive the information on a direct basis? People should
be on direct information from what we call, if you want to
call it, the universal mind or god or however you view that,
of the thought... Again, we’re thought
question is, the manifestation display is totally out of
whack, Kerry. I know we have to go through the chaos. And
we‘re not going to be able to stop the chaos, because
it just doesn’t make sense when you look at what we’re
doing to the planet itself.
So if you’re asking me what’s going to happen?
I do have some extraterrestrial information basically saying
we’re going to have WW III begin right away.
watching some things on the west coast, though. I think that
the west coast earthquake’s going to occur before
the war begins. So that could happen momentarily.
K: Well, I have to say that I’ve been getting
some psychic information the same way. But I’d like to
have a more positive outlook here. I do believe we are getting
a collation of information about a possible natural event during
the month of October.
G: That’s right. It’s a comet. That could
happen. Kerry, I’m totally concurring. I’m just
telling you that my research...
You know, I talked to the FEMA guy down in Arizona, and he
said: We’re preparing for only 100,000 Californians.
We can’t take any more than that when this happens.
I was in
Sacramento. The television people over there have been... they want to go out and take pictures of the dam
going, because there won’t be any water in southern California.
G: Get ready for changes. Whatever you’ve believed
in, you’re going to have to be responsible. The word
is for each individual to take the information, do some research,
go on the internet, do whatever you can for each of the ones
particularly. Pitch it whichever way your reality is. Try
to get your family awakened -- and that’s
a hard job -- and your friends, those that you can.
yourself with people of like minds that support each other.
And that’s the way we’re going to have to
do it, Kerry.
K: OK. Well, I have to agree with you. I also say on
the positive side though, for all the work we’ve been
doing to awaken people, when the economy goes down, you’re
going to see people wake up real fast.
know. These are the kinds of things, the hard knocks. Some
people just require that in order to wake up.
G: You got it. That’s the reason why we’re
going into this dilemma.
think so. That really is talking about the world.
thank you, George Green. This has been a very wonderful overview,
really, of just about everything that’s going
on out there. Bill Ryan’s on the other end of the line
here, and I just want to give him a chance to say whatever
it is he might want to say or a question that he might want
Bill Ryan: Thank you very much, Kerry. There’s
nothing that I need to say or add to this very comprehensive
overview. Within 5 minutes I’m going to start editing
this and we’re going to get this very important information
out to all the members of the Ground Crew who we’re in
And we’ve got a lot of people out there, George, who
are hanging on your words because they’re looking for
direction. They’re looking for information. They’re
looking for leadership. They’re looking for information
that they can trust in a morass of misinformation, both deliberate
and accidental, that they get on the news.
and more it seems that what we’re able to provide
is something that people consider to be very valuable. And
we thank you for your part in that.
G: Well, I thank both of you guys. You’re
putting your necks out, running around the world. And bless
you. I love you both.
And take care, George. All right?
has been Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan talking to George Green,
September 23rd, 2008.
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