This is Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot,
and we’re here with David Wilcock. It is September
9th, 2008, and welcome, David. We’re very happy to
be able to chat with you on a live situation here where the
rest of the world is going to be able to listen in.
I’m more than happy to jump in. I heard that you guys
had people asking about me and wanting to hear some more
and I’m working on a really, really important article
right now and I think that the implications of what I’m
putting together are quite intriguing and valuable for many
people to hear.
well we just want to jump right in because we’re very
interested in your take on the recent announcements by Benjamin
Fulford and just want to know what you think about the election,
what’s going on, ah, October -- we get a lot of stuff
about October -- so just kind of run the gamut, if you will,
and then circle around to your article and what you are going
to put forth.
I’ll apologize in advance for the fact that this will
probably, at first, sound like a monologue, but there is
some back story that we need to have in order to have a good
philosophical discussion about this stuff. Is that ok?
right. There have been some very intriguing developments,
beginning in the field of crop circles, actually; beginning,
of course, earlier this year with a crop formation that very
accurately depicted the number pi using an intelligent cipher
that was able to be decoded by a man in England and it actually
was covered on Fox News website. It was covered on a couple
of English websites and got to be quite a big media sensation.
lot of people didn’t notice was that this formation
had a ratcheting appearance to it, which was very similar
to my all-time-favorite crop formation -- which is also the
favorite of many others -- Barbury Castle, 1991. This is
a formation that Richard Hoagland wrote about extensively
in his book, Monuments of Mars, because it encoded
the geometry of a tetrahedron, which is a pyramid type object
made of four sides with equilateral triangles on each side.
So it looks
like a pyramid except the bottom is a triangle. And then
you stick that inside a sphere and Hoagland’s research
into physics, which has been supported by others including
-- going all the way back to some of the turn-of-the-century
physicists, including Maxwell -- is that when you have a
gravitating body of large size, like the planet Earth or
any other planet, that there’s natural energy upwellings
as the body rotates, which are formed by geometry.
sounds kind of dry and academic until you realize that the
Great Red Spot on Jupiter is at precisely this geometrically-defined
point. It’s been sitting there for 400 years rotating.
As far as we know it’s been there the whole time. We
see, on solid planets, instead of these giant hurricane-like
storms, we see gigantic volcanoes. In fact, the Hawaiian
Island chain is at this geometric point on Earth, and on
Mars, you have a mountain called Olympus Mons, which is a
volcano that’s three times taller than Mt. Everest.
we talking about 19.5?
that’s right. It’s either 19.5 degrees north
or south of the Equator; if you fix one of the points of
the tetrahedron to either the north or south rotational pole.
And, again, this would all just be an interesting academic
exercise, if it wasn’t for the fact that, in the 1991
crop formation was laid down, which actually diagramed in
very precise geometric language how this works. And what
was interesting was that, that was only the middle of the
formation; on the edge of each point on the triangle was
a little circle formation, and the first one was intended
to be a dot inside a circle, which kind of represents like
the first dimension.
one was a series of spiraling lines coming out from a center
going to the outside, which kind of represents the second
dimension in which the point in the middle of the sphere
in the first diagram becomes a rotation in the second diagram
and then, the third diagram, you get this ratcheting thing.
circle on the outside of this triangle becomes a ratcheting
shape, which actually looks like a pyramid. It’s a
4-sided square, which kind of collapses in on itself in a
spiral. It’s easier to see the picture and it’ll
be on my article when I publish it tonight, which is on www.divinecosmos.com,
stuff is going to be there. Anyway, so it looks like there’s
a progression of dimensions. You have the 1st dimension;
2nd dimension; 3rd dimension and then the 4th dimension,
of course, would be the inside of the diagram, where you
get this tetrahedron-inside-the-sphere thing. And so it was
like a giant infomercial in the crops for Richard Hoagland’s
theory, and then, what happens is this year, you get the
same type of ratcheting formation, only this time it’s
encoding pi, which, of course, is that irrational number
that’s created when you take a circle and you define
the diameter as the number 1 and then the circumference of
the circle is a number that cannot be resolved within our
why the pi has an infinite number of decimals, because you
can’t actually calculate it if you make the diameter
1. Anyway, it’s believed that, in a higher-dimensional
framework, pi actually resolves to a single number with
NO decimal points and that’s when you get into all
this multidimensional stuff. So, suffice it to say that crop
circles got more publicity than ever this year as a result
of that shape being decoded and published in all these mainstream
long after that, there was another formation that came down,
which actually gives, in no uncertain terms, an exact diagram
of where the planets in the Solar System will be as of December
21, 2012, which is the end of the Mayan Calendar and, of
course, the date that is massively speculated upon.
2 different feature studio films coming out about 2012, one
of which is by Roland Emmerich and Michael Bay -- the guy
that did Transformers and the guy that did The
Day After Tomorrow. There’s another one coming
out from Nickelodeon. It’s actually a KIDS' movie based
on 2012 and the apocalypse, if you can believe that. And
we also know -- you, all 3 of us in this conversation --
know that there are multiple witnesses from inside the black
ops community that have portended what usually appears to
be quite a cataclysmic type of event in 2012. You have ... I’m
forgetting the guy’s name, who was the intuitive communicator
and was ...
he’s one of them, but the guy that devised that method
of communication because they told him that...
D: ... Dan
Sherman, right. That after 2012, there would be no electromagnetic
means of communication and he devised these other means which
they taught him how to do telepathically; and, of course,
yeah, Clifford Stone, same thing; Dan Burisch -- who all
three of us have had extensive communication with -- same
thing; Henry Deacon -- who all three of us have been in contact
with -- same thing.
keep seeing the same information over and over again. In
fact, I just asked Henry this morning if I had his permission
to go public with the fact that he and I have had extensive
communication; he actually announced that in your forum --
so now that’s out of the bag. Anyway, the point is,
is that there was not just one 2012 formation, there were
actually two and, in the 2nd one a series of dates were given,
not just 2012.
date that has consistently been shown the most, and this
is over the course of at least 6 different crop circles that
appeared in this year’s season, the date that was consistently
flagged the most was August 16, 2008. During which time there
was a lunar eclipse over Europe, which would encompass approximately
87% of the moon’s face by the shadow of the earth as
it’s occulted between the sun and the moon.
happens is you have this eclipse and, traditionally speaking,
eclipses are associated with the fall of kings. They’re
associated with major political changes on the planet, particularly
when they act to potentiate existing energies that are already
quite tense. Now I was looking at these prophecies. I was
aware of them as early as the 2nd week of July. I did not
wish to go public with them, because I felt what would happen
is that others would jump on it and try to make it into something
more than it was. I didn’t know what the answer would
be; however, there were some very intriguing clues.
the formations that flagged August 16th as an exact timeline
was actually drawn directly next to a series of windmills
that are used to generate wind power -- electricity from
the wind – which, of course, is alternative energy,
which, of course, could very well be the circle makers saying
to us, OK, check it out. Whatever happens on August 16th
is going to be a major step towards eliminating the dependence
that you have on oil and freeing up the possibility of alternative
forms of energy and, when you look at this confirmation,
which, again, I will have all these pictures up on my site
and we can mirror this on www.ProjectAvalon.net,
which is you guys’ new site as well, so everybody can
going to see what appear to be 3 sets of gears with teeth
on them, clearly showing that this is intended to be some
sort of machine, some sort of functional machine that they’re
flagging. So you have the suggestion of a machine; it’s
built next to a row of 4 giant windmills that generate electricity,
and the date that they’re flagging, again, is August
16th. And there’s, like, 6 different formations doing
this date. So I’m going, what the hell is going
go off to ... oh, and that’s not all. I was working
on a paper with Richard Hoagland insofar as he submitted
it to me to read and to see if I had any suggestions as to
information I might want to add to it. And this paper dealt
with the very beginning of NASA involving Wernher von Braun,
who was essentially a Nazi German scientist transferred over
here after World War II by our guys in the U.S., who was
then made to be a very public role in basically acclimating
American people to what’s going on in the space program.
fact, he had a great deal of rocketry experience by designing
the V2 rockets in Germany and was not only the public relations
face, but was also a very important scientist in terms of
actually developing rocket technology, which would ultimately
lean towards trying to do a moon shot, trying to get a man
on the moon. Well in the early days they were launching off
a bunch of rockets and, in the process, many of them -- almost
all of them, in fact -- were not following their projected
path as it had been given.
words, we were using the conventional Newtonian Physics:
Force = Mass x Acceleration; and all the basic rules of how
we believe the planets and moons and so forth orbit.
was working out right. There was some sort of mysterious
force that was skewing the rockets so that they were actually
overshooting the target -- it was as if something was lifting
them. They were getting an extra source of lift that was
causing them to fly higher and go farther than they normally
did a prodigious amount of work in exposing all this stuff.
In this 2-part article series, I believe it’s called “Von
Braun’s 50-Year-Old Secret”. Anyway, that’s
on his website, www.enterprisemission.com.
Now it was on the night of, ah, well, he sent me this work
as of, I guess, August 5th to review, because, obviously,
we want to have our own form of peer review, since we are
peers and we do know things that the other doesn’t
And I hadn’t
had a chance to look at it and then he sent me the graphic
he was going to use to put on the front page of the website
and it was a picture of von Braun holding out his hand in
front of a diagram of the Earth and the Moon and the orbital
path between them, which kind of looks like half of an infinity
loop. Anyway, I look at this diagram and I say, Richard,
I can make this look a lot sexier than that. I want to make
this really pop out and do this for you. And so he naturally
So on the
night of August 7th, I finished the diagram in which -- what
I did is I put in a moon on the top right, I put in a star
field behind the moon, and then I drew a figure 8 infinity
loop between the Earth and the Moon, so as to illustrate
the path that the rockets would go on the way to the Moon.
And I also used a comical image of the Moon: I found an image
where there was a rocket stuck in the eyeball of the Moon,
as if the man on the Moon had been stuck in the eye with
it had some comedy in it, because, of course, it was a black
eye on the face of NASA that these mistakes were happening,
because time after time they’re spending multimillion
dollars on these rockets, and then they’re blowing
up, and they’re not reaching their targets and it was
very embarrassing. This was in the ‘50s that this was
conclusion, of course, is that there’s an antigravity
force that was skewing the launch pattern of the rockets,
which is the key to antigravity. He does not believe that
von Braun knew about this before or, if he did, he certainly
didn’t know how it worked well enough to be able to
alter the rockets’ path to make it work. So anyway,
this was the key that could have led to free energy and antigravity
and all these wonderful things, but, instead, they had to
adapt over multiple failed launches in order to eventually
figure out how to correctly launch rockets and take these
forces into account.
the meantime I’m sitting here working on this diagram
and the key thing that was the most difficult was this figure-8
infinity loop that I was trying to superimpose between the
Earth and the Moon. And I’d gotten this off of just
a website that had a series of infinity shapes on it. The
original infinity shape was a uniform line all the way around.
It was like if you drew a number 8 but the line was even
in its width all the way across. And I had gotten it all
the way to where I wanted it and then my computer crashed
and I had to start over.
had so much trouble with the fatter infinity symbol that
I went with a skinnier one, where on one side, it was wide
and on the other side, it was skinny. So it looks more like
a conventional number 8 that would be drawn in like Times
New Roman font, or something. Anyway, I popped this in there
and, while I’m doing this, I have this thought in my
mind that says, You know, I wonder if the circle makers
-- the guys that are doing the crop circles, whoever they
are -- would respond to my thoughts and make a circle based
on what I’m thinking about right now, because,
as we know in crop circle history, back in 1991, a group
of people meditated and thought, in August 1991, about the
Mandelbrot Set , which is a fractal pattern that many of
us are familiar with and the very next day a crop formation
showed up that had that pattern in the crop.
And I just,
I didn’t want to take, I didn’t want to be arrogant,
I didn’t want to ask for something, it just was a stray
thought that went through my mind, but I had intent behind
it. I said, That would be really cool if a crop formation
was made based on what I’m thinking about. Well,
the very next day was 8/8/8. August 8th, 2008 and, lo and
behold, there shows up in the crops a gigantic infinity symbol.
Skinnier on the one side, fatter on the other side, exactly
like the one that I had just posted on to Richard Hoagland’s
webpage the night before in the art that I had done as we
posted this article about von Braun, the Nazis, the 1950s,
the secret space program, all this kind of stuff that’s
going on behind the scenes.
So I found
this very fascinating. I didn’t do anything with it
at the time. Then I go off, that same weekend, to this dowsing
conference in Vermont. Dowsing is where people use a stick
to find water in the ground. And they wanted me to be their
keynote speaker. There was, like, 500 people at the conference,
it was very well attended and my father was there, he loved
what I said. It was a family healing, a lot of good things
happened but, here I am in the airport and I’m reading
about Russia and Georgia at war.
the spin was that, Russia created an unprovoked attack against
Georgia; whereas, the deeper reality was that Saakashvilli,
however you pronounce his name, the President of Georgia,
had basically launched an unprovoked, spontaneous attack
against innocent civilians in the capital city of South Ossetia,
which is this breakaway republic that had been a part of
Georgia and was now claiming allegiance to Russia.
So he basically
bombs these people and what nobody had prepared for -- this
is what the insider disclosures have now revealed -- what
nobody had prepared for was that Russia knew about it in
advance, had secret knowledge that they were about to do
this, had disguised all their equipment, so that nobody saw
that it was waiting there, even though they had shot down
various airplanes that were in flight when they flew over
that airspace, they still didn’t figure it out.
and, also, you got to remember that there were war games
exercises going on between the U.S. and Israel in collusion
with Georgia. There was a huge contingent of CIA., black
ops, military personnel -- all these folks in Georgia. Because
what they were planning on doing, this is what we now find
out, is using Georgia as a staging area from which Israeli
planes would bomb Iran. And this was also involved in the
Israeli faction trying to get McCain to allow Lieberman to
be his Vice Presidential nominee. There was heavy, heavy
pressure for him to do that.
had actually promised them, so these inside sources say,
that he would, in fact bomb Iran, like, very soon, and hence
you saw him in that video where he goes, where he’s
making fun of that song Barbara Ann and he’s
saying bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran, you know. So what’s
happened is, I’m going off to this dowsing conference
-- all of a sudden, we’re at war. If you look it up,
they say the war starts somewhere between August 7th and
August 8th and it lasts for 8 days. Well what’s 8 +
8? ... 16.
August 16th? The very day that at least 6 or 7 -- well at
least 6 crop formations – flagged; the day of an eclipse;
the day in which, where a crop formation was equated with
these four windmills. The idea that we’re going to get
off of the oil tit and on to some sort of real energy that’s
actually going to be much healthier for the environment and
won’t require us to have to fight over diminishing
happened is the Russians were involved, they had pre-existing
knowledge, they were shooting down Israeli fighter jets when
they flew over the airspace and they still went ahead and
did the invasion anyway. There were CIA personnel on hand.
Nobody foresaw that Russia was going to fight back like this.
Because it was right in the middle of the beginning of the
Olympics, if you remember that, nobody wanted to have an
international incident when everybody’s together in
Beijing for the Olympics. And yet, all of a sudden, chaos
starts to ensue.
the original plan was that Russia wouldn’t have a fast
response. That this would quickly escalate into a big World
War III type of situation and that, in the melee, they would
be able to find an excuse to bomb Iran and make it ok. Nobody
prepared for the fact that Russia was standing by and just
blasted the hell out of Georgia, ripped the country in half
and completely demolished the military.
guy, who’s been in the White House for years now, coming
out with advanced information, well in advance of when we
actually see it in the media; it’s published on a website,
which is The Barnes Review – TBR: it’s
the initials www.TBRNews.org.
You read “Voice of the Whitehouse; you go into the
archive on that site. You can read all these disclosures;
they come out about every Wednesday and every Saturday, pretty
has been the most reliable and consistent intel source I’ve
ever seen as far as politics. This guy makes it very clear
that a massive war was planned and that Georgia was what
was supposed to start it and it didn’t work. And, it’s
even worse than that -- worse for them, because the Russians
drove out the CIA. They literally ran out of there, they
were so scared because such amazing military force was brought
down upon them so quickly that they literally just ran. And
they didn’t have the time to do any of the exfiltration
techniques that they normally would use to leave an area
without having blueprints and footprints behind.
happened is Russia has now come into possession of a treasure
trove of incriminating documents and materials, which totally
lay bare the collusion between the U.S. and Israel, the plans
for the empire, global empire; the plans for World War III;
the plans for internment camps; FEMA camps -- all this kind
of crap. All the documents are now in the hands of the Russians
and they are in the process of getting ready to release all
this stuff. And TBRNews is going to be one of the main sources
that it comes through, thanks to this one guy, Brian Harring.
So this is not a joke, you guys. This stuff is real. This
is what happens, yeah?
I wondered if I could interrupt you there...
is fascinating to listen to this very articulate account.
It completely agrees with everything that I understand so
I have no issue at all with any of your information.
which I had wondered earlier and I wondered if you had wondered
this as well. I just wanted to knock this around between
us. Earlier on, when Putin did his unprecedented interview
with CNN, why do you think he didn’t come cleaner with
more startling information? Is it he was he was biding his
time and this is going to come out later. That’s my
D: I think
you’re exactly right. There is a vested interest in
not tipping the hat too early, because what we’re really
dealing with -- and this ties in with Benjamin Fulford’s
testimony and, thus, the thrust of your initial question
-- is a split in the Nazi party that happened when Hitler
decided to go against the Rothschilds in World War II. He
killed everybody in all the Masonic lodges all throughout
Europe. He literally genocided the Masonic lodges. A lot
of people don’t know this.
a website out there -- which is going to be in my article
-- I think if you Google “Scarlet and the Beast” you’ll
find it, but I’m
going to have the links in my article. This man has done
some really amazing research, which includes the fact that
Hitler essentially purged all the Masonic lodges, because
he knew that was the only organization that had sufficient
secrecy and sufficient motive to be able to organize to bring
ends up happening is that Hitler was originally being financed
by, for lack of a better word, the Illuminati, the Rothschild
faction of the power elite on this planet. In the attempt
to try to unify Russia and Europe into a single conglomerate
nation, so to speak, and thus the effort was to try to go
for a one-world government by basically conquering all these
countries and then having alliances.
was only a puppet. He didn’t have real power but, he
got arrogant and cocky and started to feel that the power
that he’d been extended as a puppet was actually real.
I mean, after all he did command the armies. Everybody --
most people -- thought he was in charge. So why not take
the power as being yours? I mean, he got to the point where
he says, What can they do? What can they do to stop me? So
there was ...
a little like George Bush.
D: Oh yeah,
totally, totally. So what happened is, there was a split
in which Hitler went off on his own and it’s actually
not very well known, but highly well documented and I’ll
have this in my article as well, that U.S. corporations in
large numbers were supporting the Nazi party. And this includes
Boeing, who was actually making the bombers. They would have
passenger airliners that they shipped to South America and
then they would ship them to Africa, where the seats were
ripped out and the decals were put on them and they were
turned into the Wehrmacht bombing fleets.
have the tank plants in Germany that were built by Ford Motor
Company and General Motors and, when Allied bombers destroyed
the tank plants, Ford personally repaid Hitler to rebuild
these tank plants. So it’s treason at a level that
is unimaginable to the average person who doesn’t understand
that this whole thing is just a big game.
George Bush Senior, you have to think about the Bush family
and their whole ...
getting there, I’m getting there. In 1933 Prescott
Bush, who was a financier of the Nazi party -- in fact one
of the largest bankers for the Nazi party in the U.S. In
1933 he drew up a plan to engage a fascist coup in the U.S.
similar to what Mussolini was doing in Italy and Hitler was
doing in Germany because he believed it was the best way
to stabilize the economy in the aftermath of the depression.
The plan was to oust Franklin Delano Roosevelt and essentially
take over the country with military force.
if you can believe it, and I have the links in the article
you’ll see, the BBC actually did investigative reporting
on this, complete with a radio show, confirming that it’s
true; including this General from the U.S., who actually
defected and went against the plan and blew the whistle on
it. And there was a Congressional inquiry and it was stopped;
but, yet it was very hush, hush and nothing ever went anywhere,
because these guys commanded a fierce, terrifying amount
when you’re dealing with the global elite, there’re
two primary negative factions that have been warring with
each other ever since the beginning of the 20th century.
And it goes like this: the Rothschilds created the Rockefeller
oil empire. John D. Rockefeller was financed by the Rothschild’s.
They said, Go to America, which we don’t want to
be there, you go over there and you start this oil empire
and work with us. They did not see -- this is part of
their lack of foresight -- they did not see that oil would
become the predominant economic force in the world.
was the Rockefellers were able to amass power, so as the
U.S., in the Rockefeller faction, began secretly financing
Hitler’s regime. Hitler himself actually veered away
from the Rothschilds and more towards the Rockefeller faction.
And thus, in the aftermath of World War II and collapse of
the Nazi party, when the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers
turned against Hitler because he basically was loyal to no
one but himself, a good portion of Hitler’s war machine
was imported to the U.S. via Project Paperclip, which was
a program that Congress justified by saying, If we don’t
get these scientists, then the Russians are going to get
them, so we gotta bring them here.
only did they bring over their science, like with von Braun
and the rocketry, they also brought over all this other garbage
like these ritual occult stuff, torture techniques that were
intended to create partitions in the mind for purposes of
mind control, which led to the Monarch Mind Control Program,
and not to mention all of the tools to manipulate a free
society into a fascist dictatorship, which various researchers
-- including this woman named Naomi Wolf -- have asserted
is exactly what’s happened. In fact the neoconservative
Bush administration has essentially followed Hitler’s
playbook right down to the letter. In fact the phrasing like “Homeland
Security” is very similar to what the German’s
called “Fatherland”. And it just goes on and
on and on. I’m not actually an expert in that particular
area, but you can research this...
when you’re dealing with global elite, there’s
two primary negative factions that have been warring with
each other ever since the beginning of the 20th century.
goes like this: the Rothschilds created the Rockefeller oil
empire. John D. Rockefeller was financed by the Rothschilds.
They said, Go to America, which ... we don’t
want to be there. You go over there and you start this oil
empire and work with us. They did not see -- this was
part of their lack of foresight -- they did not see that
oil would become the predominant economic force in the world.
happened was, the Rockefellers were able to amass power.
So as the US, in the Rockefeller faction, began secretly
financing Hitler’s regime, Hitler himself actually
veered away from the Rothschilds and more toward the Rockefeller
faction. And thus, in the aftermath of WWII and the collapse
of the Nazi party, when the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers
turned against Hitler because he was basically loyal to no
one but himself, a good portion of Hitler’s war machine
was imported to the US via Project Paperclip, which
was a program that Congress justified by saying, If we
don’t get these scientists, then the Russians are going
to get ‘em. So we gotta bring ‘em here.
only did they bring over their science, like with von Braun
and the rocketry, they also brought over all this other garbage,
like these ritual occult stuff, torture techniques that were
intended to create partitions in the mind for purposes of
mind control, which lead to the Monarch Mind Control Program.
And not to mention all of the tools to manipulate a free
society into a fascist dictatorship, which various researchers
-- including this woman named Naomi Wolf -- have asserted
is exactly what’s happened.
the Neoconservative Bush administration has essentially followed
Hitler’s playbook right down to the letter. In fact,
the phrasing, like “Homeland Security” is very
similar to what the Germans called “Fatherland”.
And it just goes on and on and on. I’m not actually
an expert in that particular area, but you can research this.
Alex Jones ...
K: We know
who is ... Jordan Maxwell ... and we’re planning
to interview him very shortly.
And he can fill you in with a lot of this stuff. So anyway,
this is all back-story to establish that two essential factions,
both of which are negative, were established. And the Rothschild
faction has always been much more involved with ritual magic
and the occult.
faction has a spiritual belief that Lucifer is actually the
good guy and that the Christian pantheon threw him out because
they were the bad guys. So they’ve reversed the whole
biblical scenario and said, hey, this angel of light
who was God’s most bright angel, was the good guy all
along and he got thrown out because he knew the secret of
the Tree of Knowledge.
they go all the way back to the account of Adam and Eve in
the Bible and say that we should have eaten from the Tree
of Knowledge of Good and Evil, that we never should have
been banned from eating it. And the reason why this evil
god stopped us from eating from the Tree is because he wants
to keep us repressed, he wants to keep us sexually inoculated,
he wants to keep us free from any real knowledge that would
threaten his power. So you know ...
this is actually I mean, positive, at the root. This is the
weird thing about it.
I’m not saying it’s bad. In fact, the Gnostic
Christians knew that Christianity was going to become a negative
force. And that’s why, when you go into the Book of
Revelation and you’re reading about the Antichrist,
it doesn’t say 666 is the number. It actually says six
hundred, three score thirty, and six. And before that
little passage, it says, for he who hath ears, let him
hear. Now, for anybody who’s a cabbalist, meaning
somebody who knows the secret magical tradition, when it
says that little phrase, for he who hath ears, let him
hear, it means take the numerical value of each letter
and add ‘em up, and the number that you get from this
passage is the secret code.
you add up the passage that describes the Antichrist and
the number of the beast as being 666, the number it adds
up to is 3160. And that number, in the secret code, is Lord
this -- and I know it’s going to sound crazy, but you
can read all this in a book by John Michell, called The
Dimensions of Paradise.
And when you actually go through the account of the Antichrist
in the Bible, what it says is that the Antichrist would be wounded
on the side and yet did live and fashioned into an idol to
be worshipped by all peoples, in nations, of all tongues.
is nothing else we see in the world except mainstream fundamentalist
Christianity that fits that. So, they knew. They knew that
the original positive message of Jehoshua (which is actually
the real name of Jesus, bastardized into the name Jesus) ... Jehoshua’s
teachings were positive. They taught service to others. They
said, love thy neighbor. They didn’t say,
love thy neighbor, provided that he’s not a faggot,
or that he’s not ...
I use that derogatory term for a reason, because these guys
have totally lost touch with the Golden Rule. As long as
you’re not a gay, as long as you’re not having
an abortion, as long as you don’t oppose your country
invading other countries, then you’re God’s
chosen. Well, that’s totally negative and everybody
sees that now.
So it was
seen long in advance that you were going to have this faction
that would emerge, that would use the name of Christianity
to do unspeakable acts of evil. And this is exactly what’s
Neocons. That’s right. They are the fulfillment of
the Christian prophecy, encoded in the Bible through Gematria,
which is the science of adding up numbers out of the letters,
in which the Antichrist passage adds up to 3160, which translates
as Lord Jesus Christ. And they use that term because Jesus
didn’t want to be named a “Lord.” He didn’t
want to be seen as better than anyone else.
Bible he keeps saying, I’m the son of Man. I’m
not the son of God. I’m the son of Man. But there’s
all that stuff that he was trying to do. And he tried to
make it really simple: Love your neighbor. And then it got
all contorted into what we see now.
that aside, the Illuminati faction is the result of the conglomerate
of different secret societies that would keep kind of fading
out and dying out and then resurging when people would rediscover
them ... one of these people being, of course, Francis
Bacon, who is the author of the Free Masonic tradition. Most
of those rites and rituals came from him. He also apparently
was keenly involved in the rewrite of the Bible by King James,
which we call the King James Version. So that’s another
feather in the cap of the Illuminati , that their founder
basically rewrote the Bible.
also, of course, have all the Shakespearian plays which ... Francis
Bacon took on the pseudonym of “William Shakespeare”,
which is a cabbala meaning: “Shake the spear of the
will of the I AM presence.”
real William Shakespeare was a guy who was totally illiterate.
He couldn’t even sign his own name. He couldn’t
even write. And when he died, they didn’t find any
books in his house. And yet after he died, posthumously,
there were many, many books, many, many plays published and
given his name.
was a whole team of people writing the Shakespearean plays.
Bacon was in charge of it. He was able to use the plays to
disclose a lot of royal scandals that couldn’t go out
in the public, because the secret of Bacon is that he was
the illegitimate son of Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth
was pregnant by Lord Dudley, who was unpopular, and, therefore,
she could not make him her King.
was raised by one of her maids-in-waiting. And he didn’t
even realize until he got to be a teenager that Elizabeth
was his mother. So, in the process, he gets this Oedipal
Complex and falls in love with his mother. And then realizes
that she is his mother and that odious realization
is either the plot of Macbeth or Hamlet,
or one of the most famous ones. I forget which.
of this stuff that was in those plays was actually blowing
the whistle on real scandals in the royalty. So Francis Bacon
became very estranged by the royalty. He was thrown out of
England by his mother. He was highly betrayed by her. He
he was given access to the Vatican library, which, of course,
poached the library of Alexandria, and things from the Mayan
codices, and all the secret stuff going all the way back
to Atlantis that we’re not supposed to know, or that
they don’t want us to know.
discovers that there were plans from Atlantean prophecies
to create a new Atlantis. And they even said where it would
be, that it would be this undiscovered land in the western
hemisphere, which they didn’t even know to exist. So
he found maps of the Earth, secret maps, that showed the
able to secretly inspire the nautical expeditions of the
conquerors and fooled the people into ... telling them that
there were streets of gold, paved with gold, that even they
were pissing and shitting into gold pots, to try to get people
to want to go over there. Because, in fact, he realized that
there was this great prophecy that America was going to be
the new Atlantis, and it needed his help to fulfill the prophecy.
was always intended by Bacon and by the Masons to be the
location where they would stage this massive effort to overthrow
the world and make a New World Order, which was his ultimate
was anti-royalty. So what they did is, they created their
own secret society based on all these ancient rites that
had been lost. And they created all the secret handshakes
and all the rituals and the loyalty oaths where they say,
you know, if you blow the whistle on us, we’ll
kill you, and then basically set up shop, eventually.
It took 300 years, but they moved everything over to the
the Rothschilds ...
also infiltrated the Vatican.
D: Oh yeah.
Absolutely. That’s absolutely true. That goes ... you
know, there’re several different levels of testimony
that say that, including Svali, the Illuminati whistleblower;
Leo Zagami, who you guys interviewed, and others. Greg Szymanski
brought in a number of people to talk about that.
what happens is, Francis Bacon and the creation of the Masonic
Order was the beginning of the division against the Rothschilds,
who actually were in charge of the ancient royalty that was
still running, you know, right of succession, bloodline stuff,
Royal Right of Kings, in these European countries.
Masonic Order wanted to break off from that and create a
fraternal organization that wasn’t based on any sort
of ancient bloodline, which is very anti-Illuminati, which
is all about the bloodline. So they eventually set up shop
in the US. The original founding fathers were all Masons,
what happens is, the Rothschild faction starts to infiltrate
very soon after America was created. In fact, the War of
1812 was the result of the US side, the Masonic side, trying
to throw off the yoke of the Illuminati. And the King of
England was so pissed off about it that he made a hasty attempt
to try to take it back. And it was this failed war that resulted.
you go forward in time, you now have the American Masonic
party being one faction, against the Illuminati being the
other faction. They rejected all the Luciferian blood-drinking
occult rituals. Now, granted, they do have Bohemian Grove.
They do have some of these sacramental things that they go
through, which are more ceremonial. But they’re nowhere
near as into it as the Rothschild side is.
I have to interject here, that there is a split within the
Rockefeller faction ...
no doubt about it.
and a major one that involves MJ-12 or, as they want to be
called today, the Committee of the Majority, or whatever.
a major war going on between them, within those
absolutely correct. What I’m trying to do right now
is paint out the picture of the last few hundred years of
history so that, when we get to that point, we’ll be
able to have that discussion. Again, I apologize that this
a monologue, but I think most people will find this fascinating.
You’re doing a great job.
this is the result of extensive research that I’ve
done, as you can probably tell. Anyway, what happens is,
a very significant series of political events occurred, beginning
in ... 1826, I believe, is when it started, somewhere
in that neighborhood. It will be in the article, in probably
part 2 or part 3 of the article.
the American Masonry grew quite large. You got favored treatment
in business. If you were on the battlefield and you gave
the Masonic great hailing signal of distress, which is a
gesture followed with a verbal statement that you make, then
soldiers would rush to your aid. Even if somebody else was
in the way, you would get saved first.
So it gave
you the advantage in war. It gave you the advantage in business.
Gave you advantage socially. You could be lent money from
the Masonic Order and you would be protected against being
brought to trial even if you had committed a crime. Your
crimes would be covered up. So this was very attractive to
a lot of people.
the Rothschild side was infiltrating and the efforts grew
to the point where the Civil War was constructed. I’m
sorry ... that’s getting ahead of ourselves.
we get to that, there was a very important Masonic revolt,
which is a very key element of American history, which has
been totally scrubbed from the textbooks because of the Masonic
influence still wielding as much power as it does. It’s
very important to discuss this.
A man named
William Morgan, in the late 1820s, decided that he was not
comfortable with Free Masonry because it went against his
Christian beliefs. He had ascended to the 3rd degree of Masonry,
which ... the first three degrees are called the Blue
Degrees, where you don’t really know very much.
And he actually went out and published all this stuff and
put it out in a book.
he betrayed the Masonic Order, they were required by their
oath to kill him. And they did. They actually tied a bunch
of rocks to a series of ropes around his waist and basically
dropped him over the edge of the boat in the middle of the
Niagara River and he drowned.
happened was, the people who committed this murder, even
though they knew that it was part of their oath that they
had agreed to, they didn’t like what happened, and
they began to talk about it and they began to publicize it.
And by this point, you already had the Masonic Order having
a stranglehold over the means of publication, of media, in
the country. So it was very difficult for this word to get
then, you didn’t really have established corporate
newspapers and so forth, and mail was brought by Pony Express
and those kinds of methods. And in the early 1820s, 1830s,
you still didn’t even really have railroad transportation
yet. All you really had was horse and buggy, so it wasn’t ... it
took a while for these things to get around.
ended up happening was, a massive social revolution took
place. And of 50,000 members in the Masonic Order in colonial
America, 40,000 of them quit and virtually all the Masonic
lodges in the north part of the country disbanded. Only a
very few number in the South actually even stayed operational.
was actually a party called the Anti-Masonic Party, which
you can look up in Wikipedia, that was formed, which included
some very heavy-hitting names in American history that were
a member of this party. And that party later evolved into
a party called the Whigs, and most people are more
familiar with that, if you remember from history classes
what happens is, it actually gets to the point that there
were open hearings on a very high governmental level, in
New York and other states, about the Masonic Order, and they
tried to bring the whole thing down. And they were largely
successful. It only held on in the South.
did the Rothschilds do next? It took ‘em a number of
years, but they fomented the Civil War, using slavery as
the bait, even though both the North and the South were involved
in it. That was the ticket that they used.
was essentially a pawn. He didn’t realize the full
extent of what was going on, and they shot him when he started
to figure out what was happening and didn’t want to
go along with the plan anymore. That’s why Lincoln
was assassinated. Lincoln’s actions ... inadvertently
he was pawned into creating the federal government as we
now know it, taking away the rights of the States and federalizing
the American government much more than it ever had been before.
So at this
time in history the Civil War as actually fomented in order
to boost membership into the Masonic Order, which by this
point the Rothschild faction was starting to infiltrate.
And that’s also where you start to get the break between
Yorkies and Scotties -- York Rite and Scottish Rite Masonry.
what happens is, the Civil War massively restructured the
Masonic Order. The lodges all got rebuilt in the North and
the South because, basically, soldiers didn’t want
to die in battle, and they knew that if they were a member
of this group, they would be given preferential treatment
to stay alive.
the American faction, versus the Rothschild faction, still
won out and had the prevailing influence. And this continued
right up until the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913,
which was a dodgy deceptive move that Fulford talks about,
which lead to the creation of a fiat form of currency in
which speculative hot air is used to back up the dollar.
It was originally put on the gold standard but even that
was being manipulated and now there’s no gold standard.
And that Federal Reserve is actually run by the Rothschild
meantime, they were cooperating with the US enough to establish
Rockefeller and his oil empire. And that oil empire became
the driving economic force of this country, which sort of
became the focal point for all these secret societies and
the Masonic side of things to focus around ... and the
seat of power.
then happens is, as you develop into World War I, you have
the Rothschild faction trying to seize world power. You have
the American faction working against them. This is the basis
of the conflict: are two groups in war, trying to stop each
other from doing what they’re doing.
World War II
course it didn’t take long before World War I had devastated
Germany. German Marks were so cheap that people were carting ‘em
around in wheelbarrows just to try to get a loaf of bread.
was able to rise up in the middle of this collapsed economy
and create fascism, which people initially supported, because
they wanted to go against whoever they felt was responsible
for bankrupting them. Hitler painted it up as if it was the
Jews’ fault. So then he got people to be angry at the
Jews, just like the Bush administration gets us to be angry
at the Arabs. So in fact the people did support, to some
degree, the attack of the Jews. I don’t think most
people would have supported genocide if they knew that’s
what was happening. But they certainly were blaming the Jews
for what horrible economic hardships they endured.
comes to be the point in World War II, the fallout of World
War II, that the Rothschilds lost because Hitler turned against
them and the US. He became his own separate agent. And he
basically as doing whatever he wanted and tried to make the
world his way.
the US and the Rothschild side, the Rockefeller and Rothschild
side, banded up against him -- the enemy of my enemy is my
friend, so to speak – and brought him down. And the
way they got to bring him down was, they got him to march
on Russia in winter, Stalingrad, exactly, the city. And his
army completely starved to death in the cold winter, and
ran out of supplies, and he just destroyed his entire army.
were able to tweak his ego and get him to do this because
they had broken his code. They knew where he was going to
go and what he was going to do. And Winston Churchill had
to allow London to be bombed, even though he had family there.
And he couldn’t telegraph that he knew what was coming,
because it would have tipped off Hitler to what was going
on, and they would have lost the war. So that’s the
kind of horrific consequences of knowing the code and not
being able to go public with it yet.
Anunnaki and the Germans
this is still the history, and what we’re getting to
now is the ET stuff.
I was getting worried there, I have to say. [Laughs]
no. It’s all coming back. It’s all coming back.
1920s there were occult societies in Germany that began to
channel ETs, one of which was the Vril Society, another of
which was the Thule Society. And, in some form or another,
this was realized into an open contact between the German,
budding fascist government, and a group of extraterrestrials
called the Anunnaki.
Anunnaki ... according to multiple insider testimonies,
we know that they are approximately twice the height of a
normal human being. They wear masks. You can’t see
their faces. The protocol is that you are not allowed to
look in their eyes, even though they have a mask on. And
their outfits are red and gold in color. They actually look
kind of comical. It’s almost like a battle outfit,
like something you’d see in a video game. And they’re huge.
I mean, they’re enormous in size. They’re twice
our height, they’re larger than we are, stronger than
we are. They also have mental powers, telepathy. They can
control you to some degree, the way you think and what you’re
going to do. And they don’t like to be messed with.
was a period of time in which connection was made between
Germany and the Anunnaki, which lead to the sharing of technology.
This began some time in the early-to-mid-1930s and continued
until sometime in the early-to-mid-1940s. It was well over
before the end of World War II.
meeting apparently took place in the Himalayan Mountains
-- it had to be a remote area -- between the Germans and
the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki, again, did share technology with
the Germans but they only got a small amount. They got some
antigravity. They got some energy devices, but not a whole
lot. And so the saucers that they built were fairly crude,
as a result. However, there was some degree of a sharing
of power. This is where we get into the New Berlin Base,
which is actually a base that was an Anunnaki base in Antarctica
which the Germans were able to cohabitate with them.
faction still shares some degree of communication with the
Anunnaki. They still are in fairly decent contact with them,
from what I’ve heard. But again, the Rothschild faction
is vastly inferior when it comes to technology. They don’t
have anywhere near as much stuff as the Rockefeller side.
and the Looking Glass
gets into the Roswell crash. The Roswell crash, 1947, is
what created the Rockefeller side to become the monster that
it is now.
this crash in the desert in New Mexico in which these little
people come out of the ship and they’re all holding
these little cubes in their hands. The little cubes that
they were holding in their hands when they came out were
devices that allowed them to see through time and it interfaced
with your consciousness. You would think about a particular
time and it would show up above the little box.
got ahold of this technology and were able to game out the
future and see what was going to happen, using this technology.
They didn’t necessarily know exactly what would happen
but they could game out the probable futures, based on various
events, and actually manipulate history by doing this.
You’re saying there was more than one. My understanding
is there was only one cube, and it’s also known as “The
Yellow Book.” So it’s important to tell people
testimony is that there was more than one, that more than
one of them was holding one of these things in their hands
when they came out of the ship. So you can ... it’s
just a difference in opinion, but we know for a fact from
multiple witness testimony, there was at least one.
Glass, Pineal Gland, Stargates
And I put
together a wide variety of Looking Glass testimony and determined
that, in fact, there are also a variety of ancient Looking
Glass devices, that the same group that landed in Roswell
- which would be your P-45, ah, no, your P-22 future human
lineage extraterrestrials if you go with Burisch’s
testimony - that they actually traveled into the
past: future ancestors of humans after 2012 where there
was a very small gene pool -- that they traveled into the
past and they built these devices which actually reverse-engineered
the pineal gland in the brain.
gland in the brain is at the exact geometric center of the
brain. It is a small area of water which has microclusters
in it. Microclusters are little geometric clusters of minerals.
And this water is shielded by the surrounding gland, electromagnetically.
the technology is so absurdly simple that all you have to
do is shield off water from the conventional electromagnetic
energy that we have in space/time and the water starts to be
a gate into time/space, which is a realm in which time is
just a direction you can point yourself in and travel through.
And it’s an inversion of space, so that space becomes
time and time becomes space. So you move through space here
and you’re moving through time over there.
multiple ... and you actually have Gordon
Novel in one
of your testimonies that said the same thing, that, when
a ship creates antigravity, in so doing, it’s actually
moving through time by traveling through space as we know
they didn’t want to let this technology out, for one
of the reasons being they believed it would collapse the
economy because people would see what was coming and there
would be no speculation in the markets any more.
that as it may, we all have this stargate in our own brain,
which we access primarily through meditation, stilling of
the mind, allowing the obstructions to fall away so we get
this sort of natural intuitive bubbling-up, which most people
think of daydreaming. They don’t think that it has
any value. But when you go into that meditative state where
thoughts just naturally surface into your mind without really
having to work for them, that’s actually the feed from
your subconscious, super-conscious, which comes through the
it’s symbolized by the Egyptians, on the pyramids and
so on, by the pine cone.
the all-seeing eye on the top of the pyramid, right, all
happens is, the ancient devices that were located in various
places which also could do this, both factions, the Rockefellers
and the Rothschilds, were trying to track these objects down.
got a much more advanced device.
Looking Glass devices create this sort of amber-colored cloud,
a spherical cloud, that the person operating the device allows
to be a viewer into whatever future timeline you’re
looking at. So, it kind of looks like a fisheye lens. It’s
sort of distorted around the edges. It’s not clear
on the edges, and it’s amber-colored because you’re
using argon gas as the sort of like, the equivalent of like
a neon light, to capture the light that shoots through this
little barrel in the center. The barrel, again, is based
on the pineal gland. All it is is a barrel of water which
is electromagnetically shielded. And by doing that ...
Just to add a footnote to that ... We have
some diagrams of that which had been drawn by Dan Burisch on
our site, on which we have a link to those papers. It’s
called Project Looking
Glass. I think you’ve
probably got those as well. This is the original Looking Glass
device that was deciphered from the cuneiform tablets. Is that
That’s correct. And, again, there are a
couple of other witnesses, one of whom is online, and has published
things online. I have not released his identity yet. But there
is a multiple number of converging testimonies that made this
case come together for me. And I believe each of these sources
we’re dealing with is, when the Roswell crash
happened, they got a much more advanced version of the technology.
Because the Yellow Disk, or the Cube, as it’s called
... the reason why it’s called the yellow disk is that,
when you fire it up, there was a little, kind of yellow cloud
that was disk-shaped, that would appear on top of this little
itself is about 5 or 6 inches wide. It looks like brushed
aluminum metal on the outside, with sort of a raised edge
around the edges. It’s about one inch wide around
the edges. It actually looks like the cube in the movie, Hellraiser.
It looks like the cube in the movie, The Last Mimzy.
And that movie, Last Mimzy, is basically an infomercial
for everything that Burisch has been saying, which means either
that the producers of the movie were big, big Burisch fans,
or Burisch is actually telling us the truth, and these people
are trying to disclose that same information because they want
humanity to know.
we’d say, not OR he’s telling the truth.
It’s AND he’s telling the truth.
yes. It’s both. In my opinion it’s both.
we’d say, not OR he’s telling the truth.
It’s AND he’s telling the truth.
yes. It’s both. In my opinion it’s both.
Aliens after Roswell
So, the Roswell crash was actually a really unfortunate accident
insofar as The Cube got into the hands of the Rockefeller
faction. And, as a result of them also taking captivity of
a live extraterrestrial, a relationship, a diplomatic relationship,
was opened up with other human extraterrestrials.
I say “human extraterrestrial,” what
I mean is, according to Deacon’s testimony, that you
have, in Deacon’s view, it’s somewhere in the neighborhood
of over 40 races. And, of course, we know from Sgt. Clifford
Stone, he was aware of 57 different races, which he called
the “Heinz 57.”
these various people look like us. You don’t
have people with funny, ridgy foreheads like the Klingons in Star
Trek. You don’t have people with anything other
than basically smooth faces and smooth skulls. Most of them
have hair. They vary in height, from about a foot-and-a-half
tall, to 12-to-14-feet tall, which would be your Anunnaki.
They vary in skin color from jet black, to dark green, to
light green, to light orange, to all variations of Caucasian,
everything you see on the Earth. In fact, the only group that
apparently is not represented is black people on Earth. Black
people on Earth may be indigenous to this planet, and that
may be partially responsible for some of the racism in these
subscribe to that at all [To the racism in the occult groups].
In fact, if anything, it shows how precious, and special,
and unique the black people are because they are actually
the people that Earth made before everybody else was brought
here. Because there is a large amount of, sort of, drop-offs
of various races that were brought here pretty much at the
point Henry sent me an article from the BBC showing that
everybody who’s a white person on Earth, with blue
eyes, traces back to a single ancestor from about 11,000 years
ago, which is perfectly in accordance with what’s in
a variety of occult teachings.
Hitler’s whole obsession with the so-called “master
race” is based on the fact that the Germans were interacting
with other human extraterrestrials, and a fair number of them
are blond-haired and blue-eyed. So he thought that this was
some sort of advanced race that he wanted to move people on
Earth towards, or at least his chosen people.
And, again, this is idiocy. What you look like, or what race
you are, has nothing to do with how spiritual you
are or how advanced you are, at all. In fact, on a DNA level,
they’ve now proven there’s not even any genetic
marker that allows you to easily distinguish one race from
another. And based on the fact that DNA is an interface with
your spiritual body, what really matters is the development
of the soul, not the genetic heritage you come in with.
So this whole bloodline argument is Old World science that
has no basis in fact. And I just want to make that very, very
clear. But it also helps you to understand how these people
became racists in the first place.
David, I want to interrupt here to say that there are other
beings that don’t look, per se, “humanoid.” And
I’m assuming that you’re going to go with the notion
that the Grays are a robotic race.
when I say “human” ... I mean, there’s
some variance in what we say by human, but in essence, you
have a head, eyes, nose, mouth, ears, arms, legs, fingers,
But you’re missing the reptilian faction.
if there is a reptilian faction, they’re still
essentially reptilian humanoids.
except they do have ridges and so on. In other words, there’s
also the ones that look preying mantis. You know, there are other
beings out there that do not look humanoid. They have arms
and legs and, yes, a head, and if you call that ... it’s a very loose interpretation
I can say is that, from extensive communication with Henry
Deacon, and the testimony of Sgt. Cliff Stone, both of them
are saying that everybody looks essentially human. Deacon
is unaware of any reptilian species. I asked him that point-blank.
He says he’s not aware of any group like that. Doesn’t
mean they don’t exist, but he’s not aware of any
group like that.
K: OK, but Deacon is not, you know, the authority on the planet.
not saying he is.
K: He just ... He
worked in black ops.
not saying he is
K: So he
has limited information because the lie, as Hoagland says,
is different at every level. And he his need to know didn’t
even extend to Majestic 12.
I do believe that there are humans who evolved from reptilian
genetic stock. In fact, the first documentation I ever heard
about was in 1993, from a friend of mine, whose physics professor
had worked for NASA through the ‘70s.
And they described 3 essential different types of ET they’d
The tallest of which essentially looked like us -- human being,
normal human being more or less. Some slight variances in the
color of the irises, the shape of the pupil, the shape of the
teeth, that kind of stuff, but more or less the same.
The middle height was your typical Gray.
The shortest of which looked like a Gray, but the head was
actually a helmet. And when you removed the helmet, there was
something underneath that they would only refer to as a
monstrosity. And although I never got confirmation that
that monstrosity was a reptilian face, there are other witness
testimonies that seem to assert that that’s what it is.
So, I do have reason to believe that you do have some humans
who are evolved from a reptilian genetic base, and that they
basically tend to be the more self-serving and negative types.
Rifts in Space/Time, Abductions
you know, one of the things that Deacon’s testimony
said, which I don’t think he’d mind me sharing,
is that when we mess around with these wormholes, when we create
these vortexes for traveling through space and time, you get
something called a rift, and these nasty things can
fly through the rift.
And what he meant when he said nasty things fly through
the rift, is these UFO beings that actually are doing
the abductions, and then kind of try to set up shop once
they’re here, and make little bases and, try to, you
know, stay here.
otherwise, there is a quarantine around the Earth, so he
says, and they can’t get through. But when our
guys create these portals, these stargates, if it’s not
done properly, then you can create a crack in the shield, and
that’s one of the problems that can happen.
But again, from the Law of One philosophy,
perspective, which is my philosophical background, you’re
not going to be abducted unless you have actually invited
it by being consistently unclear in your orientation as to
whether you are service-to-self or service-to-others.
people have not been abducted. If you have been, it’s
probably not something you’re going to remember anyway.
And it’s not really ... it’s not causing people
excessive damage. I don’t believe that people are being
killed in these abductions. It’s certainly not something
that’s pleasant, and I wouldn’t want to have one.
you saying that you believe that people who have been abducted
are -- this is not to put words into your mouth; maybe you
can correct me -- have in some way a spiritual or psychological
weakness, which imperfection has given them that vulnerability?
Is this actually what you’re saying?
D: I believe
there are two different types of abductions going on, one
of which I would actually call “contact” more
that what’s happening is that, part of the
game is from the good guys, if you want to classify ET groups
as good and bad. And the good guys are trying to keep a human
stock of genetic material, on the offhand chance that they
were not able to prevent a disaster, which is still very unlikely,
but they don’t want to take any chances. On the offhand
chance that something went horribly wrong, they would have
a genetic stock of human DNA sufficient to recreate a human
gene-pool, and allow this grand experiment of human evolution
Now, those people appear to have volunteered for this before
they were born. Every effort is made to not scare them. Every
effort is made to give them a pleasurable experience, which
also includes wonderful consciousness-raising things. And you
can actually read the Betty Andreasson material for that. Now,
some of those people may be afraid when they go through this.
other hand, you have a negative faction, which is probably
these reptilian-genetic-stock humans. And that faction is wearing
fake masks to look like the other group ... which is why,
you know, the guy said that it looked like a Gray and you pull
the mask off and underneath it was a monstrosity. And they’re
actually faking out the same procedure which is being done
for positive purpose. Except that when they do it, they’re
terrifying people, and they’re scaring people, and it’s
a lot more unpleasant. And those, actually, are much less frequent.
So you have to clarify.
There’s two different types of things going on. One
is something that people volunteer for from before they’re
born, and it’s essentially kept as positive a possible.
The other is the negative trying to impersonate the positive,
and thus making the whole thing look like all it’s just
a whole bunch of scary, terrifying stuff. That’s what
my research has concluded over the last 12 years of looking
B: I would agree with you.
ok. Good, good. Yeah. So there’s both types.
So anyway, let’s try to veer this back into current events,
because that’s what all this back-story is for.
the Rothschild side had limited interaction with the Anunnaki.
It lasted for maybe about a decade and then it cut off. They
got a limited amount of technology, which wasn’t
very effective. And that’s all they were able to get.
Then the Rockefeller side got the Roswell crash after World
War II, shortly thereafter. They got access to a time-viewing
technology called Looking Glass. In contacting these
ETs, they were able to discover that this technology existed
from the past, and that it could be found. And these ancient
devices were actually the ones they predominantly started using.
That’s the one that Dan Burisch apparently has had the
most experience with, is the ancient device.
dovetails into Burisch’s testimony, insofar
as ... his level of the pyramid, which he admits is probably
compartmentalized and he also doesn’t know everything,
is that humanity has a big event that happens in 2012. From
the perspective of these future humans, most of the people
were no longer here.
A small group survived. And they broke off into two groups,
one of which had underground bases, the other of which survived
on the surface.
in the underground bases turned into what we would now think
of as Grays, as a result of evolutionary changes that occurred,
based on their environment and where they went. And the other
group essentially turned into the Nordics, which look essentially
human, but have the more conventional characteristics you’d
associate with Nordic sightings: blond hair, blue eyes, perfect
bodies, you know, that kind of thing. Telepathic communication.
So Burisch’s testimony, as you guys are well aware,
is that they have these certain node points in time that they
can travel through. They seem to be approximately 9,600 years
apart, which I discovered is exactly ¼ of the Earth’s
cycle of the Precession of Equinoxes, which is apparently the
grand cycle that our dimensions move through as we travel from
one dimension to another ... if you believe all that stuff.
there’s these various harmonic points that they
can travel through, one of which is 45,000 years in the future,
another of which is 52,000 years in the future. And I may be
wrong on that 9,600 year figure. I have to look back ...
B: I looked at that. I actually thought it was two-thirds
of that, because I spent some time looking at this, and thought
it was 6,400.
D: I think
that’s what it is. I think that’s what
anyway, the numbers aren’t that important. The
important part is there is a sub-harmonic of this master cycle
that appears to be driven by the sun. And, at certain points
in that cycle, there’s an aperture that allows them to
easily travel through time. And that’s when they’re
all doing it.
So that’s why we only have certain groups of our future
coming back in time to help us. Or so they say, they’re
helping us. And from that perspective, some of the abductions
are the harvesting of genetic material for the purposes of
rejuvenating the future human stock, which had gotten really
watered down by the low population that they started with.
course, underground bases and people surviving on the surface ... what you’re
probably dealing with here is these power groups that actually
do have the underground bases and the technology.
also find out that the Rockefeller side learns about 2012
and that there’s some big event happening that will
essentially change life on the surface of the Earth very dramatically.
And as a result, they create a vast ... they start creating
a vast network of underground bases. It’s obvious the
reason why they did this, to create a whole civilization, essentially,
underground, is that they did not feel that the surface of
the Earth would be viable to live on.
Now again, this gets into doom-and-gloom-sounding stuff. And
I just want to make clear that my personal opinion is that
the 2012 event refers to shifting in the energetic frequency,
which will allow most of us on Earth to live in a parallel
existence that is no longer on the physical plane.
that some people don’t go through that, and
those are the people who survive. Now whether they’re
good guys or bad guys is not really important. The point is,
some people might choose to stay here. Some people choose to
go through this.
believe everybody dies. I believe that there is a shifting
of the ways, and that people go in different directions at
this point. And a lot of the stuff I heard from Henry and
from my other contact, Daniel, all seems to support this.
getting back to what’s going on right now,
and the election, and how this relates to insider politics:
You have this Rockefeller faction in which the splinter group
of the Nazis comes over here ... Project Paperclip. They
come into possession of wonderful technology.
And they’re all interconnected with the military-industrial
complex, which very quickly breaks itself off from the government,
and becomes its own separate entity in and of itself, guided
over by this Rockefeller faction, which in essence, does not
support Luciferian philosophy at all. If you talk to Burisch,
which I have, they’re very against the Illuminati, in
fact, and believe that they’re actually fighting the
Illuminati and trying to stop the Illuminati from creating
an antichrist figure that would be like a world leader.
So Burisch has said to me that they had a Do not ask,
do not tell policy similar to gays in the military,
where they would have meetings with the Illuminati at these
groups called the Committee of the Majority. And as long
as the Illuminati never talked about their Luciferian beliefs
or their desire for an Antichrist, everything would be fine.
But if they even brought it up at all, it’s like, to
hell with you, the meeting’s over, we’re out
And that’s basically ... it’s sort of like
this polite Mexican standoff that has existed, where one group,
the Rockefeller side, has vastly superior technology and could
actually, in fact, create a fake alien invasion, if they so
desire. Now, that gets into whether in fact the ETs on the
outside would allow them to do that, or whether it would actually
be stopped. And I don’t know the answer.
Torsion technology, weather wars
also have to factor in that the Russians, completely independently
of all this other stuff, had their own progression of technology,
in secret, which began with the work of Alexander Gurwitsch
in the early 20th century and was realized more fully by
Nicolai Kozyrev -- the science of scalar waves, or what I
call “torsion fields.”
And with these torsion technologies, they have a means in
which, basically, all conventional war is obsolete. They can
create massive hurricanes. They can create earthquakes. They
can knock anything out of the sky, including the fake ET craft.
I don’t really think that the fake alien invasion
could ever happen, because the Russians could just pick ‘em
off like flies out of the sky with this torsion technology.
So that’s one of the ways in which I think we’re
protected from these greater incursions ever happening.
K: But the torsion technology also comes from Wilhelm Reich,
and the US side has that technology as well.
they definitely have it to some degree. But what I’m
saying is it appears that the Russians have a more advanced
form of it. And that’s also what Colonel Thomas Bearden
has said, that the Russian side is much more evolved and advanced
than what the US side has.
And that’s actually been realized, in this ongoing undisclosed
war of weather, which has involved hurricanes attacking the
US, in a quiet war that nobody knows is a war, which has been
used at various politically opportune moments, including 2005,
with ... I believe that was the one where Katrina happened
that year, among the others which were steered, obviously.
And Richard and I did a paper about that.
you have these four different hurricanes that land over the
exact same part of Florida. And the statistical impossibility
of something like that is akin to ... you’re standing
out of your second floor bedroom window, and you have a hula
hoop on the ground, and you drop four feathers out of the window,
in sequence, and they all land inside the hula hoop. The likelihood
of that actually happening is so remote. And yet, that’s
fact, at one point, whoever has this hurricane-making technology
created a big number “2” inside the
hurricane when it was at a magnitude of 2. And the number 2
is a perfect aerial font. I mean, it looks perfect. And it
rotates with the eye of the hurricane. It was covered on the
front page of Drudge Report. The actual footage of it is still
on that website where it was originally featured ... some
local news site in Florida. And I have the link for that somewhere,
which is in one of my articles. But this stuff is real and ...
it’s happened in China as well, with the ...
D: Oh, yeah!
K: ... with the earthquake. So it’s
going on beyond the shores of the US.
And it appears that the guys at the helm pulling the levers
on this are not the Russians, but, rather, the Japanese mafia,
the Yakuza. And they apparently leased it or bought it, bought
the technology from the Russians, and have been the ones ... according to Bearden; they’re
the ones that cooked up these hurricanes.
You can see on the infrared footage how our guys are trying
to draw lines of heat in the air to try to deflect the hurricane [on
the Sept 30, ’05 TBRNews archive - Ed]. But it doesn’t
really work very well because the Russian-made technology is
much more advanced.
I believe that this was exactly what was being ... I
had a dream not too long ago. This gets back into the present
moment, the politics around this election.
I had a dream where I was on a the surface of a destroyer
ship. And George Bush was there. And all of a sudden we look
down into the ocean and we see that ship from the Stargate:
Atlantis show, the Pegasus, which, in that show,
it’s like America’s most advanced alien-derived
So, I see
this ship under the ocean, and it launches a missile, and
hits the battleship. And everybody’s like, reeling
on the battleship. And George Bush starts going nuts and saying, Oh
my god! We’ve been attacked and everybody needs to rally
around me because we gotta protect this country.
So I realized
this was some kind of prophecy about an attack against the
US. I didn’t know what form it would take,
but then it became very clear, through additional data, that
it was this hurricane that was bearing down on New Orleans
[Hurricane Gustav, 2008]. The purpose of that hurricane, in
my opinion, was to throw off the Republican National Convention,
which it did.
McCain / Palin
once everybody fled, and the Republican National Convention
was thrown off into disarray as a result of McCain’s
astoundingly-bad decision to take on Palin ... and I have
multiple sources that Palin was not supposed to be picked by
Rove or by the Israeli side, which is the two basic sides at
work now. The Israeli side wanted Lieberman. The Rove side
wanted Romney. Nobody even knew who Palin was. Nobody was even
considering it seriously.
But like ... in a similar way to what Adolph Hitler did
in World War II -- and in no way am I trying to say that McCain
is Hitler – but ... it’s another example of
somebody who believes that the power he’s been given
is his own, doesn’t respect the fact that it’s
essentially a puppet Presidency. And he goes and makes a maverick
decision -- which he calls himself a maverick -- and goes against
his own party’s wisdom and makes this pick, which ...
enough, within days after the pick was made, they were already
having to do a very embarrassing public disclosure of this
woman’s daughter being pregnant when she’s,
like, 17 years old. And she’s supposedly the “Family
Values” candidate! I don’t think that was ever
supposed to be brought out. It was one of these terrible political
she’s actually stated on record that in Iraq
the US is fighting “God’s war.”
My God! I know! It’s such a fiasco! And we all
need to be very blessed about this, happy about this. Because
this is the collapse of this 50-year Nazi game to try to take
over this country, enact martial law, send people off to concentration
camps ... which they call FEMA camps now.
Current time: The World vs. the Rockefellers
of this stuff is going to happen. I believe Fulford’s
testimony is entirely accurate. The other world societies,
secret societies and so forth, governments of the world, have
kind of all allied. And this includes the Rothschild faction.
But, you know, you kind of have like a Middle East-Arab faction,
which is sort of its own entity. You have the Eastern Secret
Society faction, which is like Japan, China, and many of the
Southeast Asian countries. And then you also have the Rothschild
faction. And they kind of have a truce and an alliance right
And everybody’s focused on knocking out the Rockefeller
side, because the Rockefeller side is the big bully on the
block. They have the most advanced technology, by far, and
therefore it’s dangerous.
B: I want
to ask you about Putin. I think I know what your answer is
going to be, but ... is he his own man? Or is
he controlled, as part of the dialectic?
D: I believe
he’s his own man. I have to align with
what Fulford is saying on this subject. Because it appears
that Putin really did overthrow the Illuminati and got them
out of his country. And that’s part of why he’s
been so scorned in the media.
guys ... have you guys read any of the Edgar Cayce
stuff? Do you remember his quote: From Russia will come
the hope of the world?
D: I think
this I what he’s talking about. I really
do. Because what’s happened is ... Georgia, again,
was supposed to bomb South Ossetia. And this was all being
orchestrated by Israeli and US factions, CIA and so forth.
here’s another interesting side-note on
that, bringing in the Israel component. Israel, of course,
was a state that was created in an effort to provide reparations
to the Jews for what happened in World War II. Now, you’ve
read testimony from Svali. I’m sure you’ve seen
this, where she says the Illuminati absolutely despise Israel
and want to see nothing more than it to be completely wiped
out. That‘s the Rothschild side.
happens, again, is, the Rockefeller side and the Israelis
actually banded up and they’ve joined forces, and they’re
using the same tradecraft that Hitler had, that the Rothschilds
developed, to try to do it over here in the US.
So, it’s like both sides using the same type of technology,
including creating a fake invasion of your own country ... a
fake attack, the 9/11 ... which, in Hitler’s case,
was the bombing of his parliament building, which he blamed
on Poland, and then proceeded to invade Poland.
it on the Arabs, predominantly Iraqis and the Afghanis, even
though most of the hijackers were Saudis. And they don’t
even seem to have anything to do with it, except that they
were puppets. And we know a lot about that, which we don’t
need to go into.
the point being, that the Israelis are now very involved
in the Rockefeller faction. And Fulford’s testimony
is that David Rockefeller himself is no longer in control of
does seem to be, from some of the testimony that Dr. Stephen
Greer has come out with, that, believe it or not, the guy
who is at the top of everything is George Bush, Sr. And Cheney.
And these guys are ... That’s the tippy-top
of this Rockefeller side now, more than the Rockefellers anymore.
Brzezinski and Obama
K: OK. But you have to get around to Brzezinski and the fact
that his whole M.O. is to bring down Russia.
his candidate is Obama. And they’re actually
at war, within the Rockefeller side, with the, you know, McCain,
you know, Neocon faction.
I agree. I agree. Now, the Brzezinski thing is a very interesting
and controversial angle. And I’ve had
extensive conversation on the phone with Richard Hoagland about
this. Because, as I’ve said before and I’ll say
again, I’ve had extensive dream data telling me that
Obama is one of the good guys.
you’d say to yourself, OK if he’s
a good guy, then why in the world would he bring in Brzezinski? And
Richard and I have talked about this. And Richard’s
opinion, which I agree with, is: You keep your friends close,
and you keep your enemies closer.
way to know what they’re planning and what
they want to do, than to have the guy there in your cabinet?
You hear his side of things, and you hear what he wants to
do, because you’re smart enough not to be manipulated
by him. Now, granted, he’s taken a lot of heat for it.
And lot of people think that he buys into Brzezinski’s
beliefs, but I don’t believe that at all.
I think when he picked Joe Biden as his VP, it’s
a political decision that was made because he’s trying
to win an American election. And it’s a dirty game, it’s
not easy, and it’s ugly.
But I honestly
don’t think that, just because he’s
got his enemy in the camp, that means that he’s agreeing
with everything his enemy says at all.
I think ... Richard and I are unanimous in this, in agreeing
that the extent of change that Obama actually wants to create
is much more than he’s actually been saying so far. And,
from what I can tell, the insiders are terrified about Obama
ever becoming president.
Rockefellers vs. Rothschilds, political parties
And you’re seeing a massive media effort to try to frame
this election as if it’s an even run between McCain and
Obama, which is ludicrous. It’s ludicrous.
know for a fact, from the TBRNews source, that these polls
are faked, that they’ve been faked for a long,
long time. You call up 700 people in the reddest Republican
state, who you know are the most likely to be brainwashed fundamentalists.
And, even in those cases, only, like, 50% of ‘em are
saying they’re going to vote for McCain. And that’s
where you’re getting your 50/50 dead-heat from.
me point out something else which I find highly fascinating.
Burisch has said, and you guys both know this, so I’m
preaching to the choir here, that because of the onrushing
2012 event ... which, incidentally, the Rockefellers kept
secret from the Rothschilds until relatively recently.
The Rothschilds had their own plan to dominate the world,
and take over, and create their Illuminated New World Order circa
2020, somewhere in that region. And it’s now been thwarted,
because there’s not going to be a 2020 with any world
the way that we know it. And the Rockefeller side knew this
and they deliberately withheld that information from the Rothschilds
up until fairly recently.
So what’s happened is, the Rothschild side has run out
of time to bring their agenda forward. They were promoting
Hillary Clinton as the Presidential candidate. Because, in
essence, what’s been happening in American politics for
the last 50 years, is that you get the Rothschilds running
the Democrat side and you get the Rockefellers running the
has been a shooting war between these two sides, including
who gets to control the CIA, who gets to control the FBI,
the NSA, the NRO, all these different groups. And it’s
been a constant contentious battle of the intelligence agencies
in terms of who gets to run what.
course, the Rothschilds side wanted to try to collapse the
Rockefellers’ oil empire by promoting things like,
you know, the Green movement, the global warming movement,
Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth. Gore was, of course ... I
think he’s a maverick too. I think he might have been
in it in the beginning and now he’s broken away from
But it’s very fascinating. There is actually a Fox News
video clip that I will have in this article I’m writing
tonight on my website, www.divinecosmos.com ,
in which Lady de Rothschild is interviewed by Fox News. And
she is slagging the heck out of Obama.
And she tried to create this website, did create this website,
which I believe is called together4us, [ https://together4us.com/ ]
which is basically trying to get those 18 million people who
wanted to vote for Hillary to rebel and try to throw the election
back in her favor.
is ... the name Rothschild is right there on
the screen. This woman talks for four or five minutes straight
about this. She’s very charged about it, definitely does
not want to see Obama to be President. She disses him hard.
And she’s basically trying to promote the candidacy of
I don’t have any problem with somebody being
affiliated with a particular family lineage or a particular
occult group. I certainly wouldn’t recommend that anybody
do that. But at the same time, I believe that hating these
people is not the answer. I think it’s important that
we acknowledge that they’re out there, and that we prevent
them from doing things to harm humanity.
also can’t genocide them, because that‘s
the same playbook that’s been causing so many problems
on the Earth. And yet, unfortunately, they know on the inside,
that if the masses were to find out what’s going on,
in large numbers, that the lynch-mob would be out immediately.
And that’s not really a viable solution.
That’s one of the things that Fulford is talking about.
Fulford is describing how, even though it’s basically
checkmate for the Rockefellers, as of September 30th , they’re
being called to come up with this debt that they owe from when
the Reagan administration overthrew the Soviet Union and pillaged
all their money by bombarding them with fake Russian ruble
currency. It was a very successful operation, which allowed
the massive siphoning out of the Russian wealth to the Rockefeller
faction, to the tune of, you know, trillions and trillions
that money is being demanded to be paid back; they don’t
have it. And so what Fulford is saying is these Eastern Secret
Societies are essentially holding the Rockefeller side at
gunpoint saying, Look, if you guys don’t
do this, we’re going to hurt you and we have the ability
to do that, and it basically amounts to, you know, them
getting a loan because nobody wants to see the American economy
collapse, because it’s all international now. There’s
no real national economy anymore. These countries are all multinational,
so the wealth will be redistributed so that there’s no
But the main key now is how do you effectively neuter and
silence the influence of this proto-Nazi faction that has taken
up root in predominately the secret government of the U.S.
And this ties back in with the crop circles and with August
16th and why the crop circles flagged that particular date
as being important. Again, you see one of the crop circles
showing up next to these 4 windmills, suggesting something
on August 16th has to do with the overthrow of the oil economy.
you see the fact that on August 7th, the day that the war
started, I published this picture on Richard’s
website of Wernher von Braun, a Nazi scientist, who came to
the U.S. and started this whole problem. And I had an infinity
symbol in that picture which then shows up as a crop formation
the very next day on 8/ 8/ 8. And that crop formation counted
out the days to August 16th. It’s the number 8, there
was 8 days to the 16th, and also showed the phases of the moon
in the diagram according to www.Cropcircleconnector.com ,
and the researchers on that site.
forward to September 1st, I’m going to bed
at night. This is an unbelievably fascinating side note to
the story and it’ll kind of tie off my big point here.
September 1st I’m getting ready to go to bed and I hear
a very distinct message come in. And the message says, Open
up the Law of One series, book III, to page 100 and read it.
And this is very unusual. This is not something that normally
happens to me. So I go get book III, I pop it open to page
100 and it didn’t seem to be anything important.
It’s was talking about this cycle in which they say
that you count 18 days at a time from when you’re born
and, that during the first 9 days of the cycle, your spiritual
and psychic abilities will be higher. And during the second
9 days of the cycle, your spiritual abilities will wane. And
they say everybody is affected by this cycle. That you start
counting from the day you’re born, you count right up
to the present, to figure out where you are. They say your
single best 3 days are days 4, 5 and 6 in the cycle and, that
at the turning points of the cycle, you have the most trouble.
say that the more spiritually balanced you become, the more
this cycle doesn’t affect you anymore. Now,
I’ve read about this all the way back in January 1996.
I never felt compelled to try to crunch the numbers to figure
out where I was in the cycle because it didn’t seem that
big of a deal to me at the time. I just never even thought
about it and, all of a sudden on September 1st, I’m told read
book III, page 100 and this is what it says.
So I went
to sleep, I didn’t think anymore of it. Two
days later I’m going to bed, again, the message comes
in again, Open up book III and read page 100. OK,
fine. So I open up book III. Not surprisingly it’s exactly
the same information: 18 day cycle. I say, OK, this is
getting too weird. I go over to the computer. I get on
Google and I type calculate days since birth. And I looked
for some kind of software that would allow me to do that. Sure
enough I find this little thing. It’s a Java Script that
you can install on your webpage, tells you exactly how many
days it’s been since you were born.
I punch up the number and, to make a long story short, the
day that I was first asked this question, Go to book III,
read page 100, it had been exactly 12,960 days since I
was born. Divide that number by 18 and you get exactly 720
cycles, precisely, of these 18 days since when I was born.
720, of course, is 2 times 360. 360 is the number of degrees
in a circle and the crop formation that came from my thoughts
and from the article I did from Richard, three weeks earlier,
was in fact 2 circles.
just, this was mind-blowing. And then I’m saying
how in the world did my – because, consciously, I had
no idea -- how could I have known that such a perfect round
number as 720, that it was that number of 18 cycles since I
was born, on that exact day. And yet, on that exact day, I’m
told to go read that exact page in the book where it describes
I’m thinking ok, what the heck does this mean?
And it was on that exact day that McCain’s campaign had
to admit that Palin’s daughter was pregnant. And so I
believe that, with all these different levels of synchronicity
tied together, that what I’m being shown is that these
are history-making events. And you go back into the inside
testimony of what happened on August 16th, it may turn, we
know that’s the day that Russia won the war.
that time all the CIA had completely fled. They left behind
all their toys, all their documents, all their secret junk.
Russia now has possession of that and BELIEVE me, they intend
on publishing everything. They are going to make it public.
It’s not going to be kept secret. It’s
going to blow the whistle on the whole thing. And I already
thought this was amazing enough, but then when you see 6, at
least, different crop formations that tie this in, not only
with the date of August 16th, but directly with 2012, the end
of the Mayan Calendar, it appears that what we’re being
told is that the events that are happening right now are directly
paving the way for the downfall of the Rockefeller/Nazi faction
that has been illicitly running this country and running the
show for 50 some years.
That this treasure trove of documents Russia has come into
possession with will be what is necessary to bring them down.
Obviously the most dangerous period of time that remains is
between now and the election because this war in Russia, in
Georgia rather, was their big attempt to try to create total
chaos, to bomb Iran and to create Martial Law.
agree with you guys and with what your sources are saying.
There will probably be other attempts. There undoubtedly
will be other attempts to create some sort of chaos between
now and the election. To try to sway it in McCain’s favor;
however, given the astonishing synchronicities that I’ve
seen, the crop formation with the number 8, right?; describing
the drawing that I’d just made the night before and published
for the world to see on www.enterprisemission.com ;
the fact that this 720 cycle of 18 days happened on the exact
day that McCain’s campaign said that Sarah Palin’s
daughter was pregnant; the fact that , that other crop formation
that pointed to August 16th was drawn directly next to a bunch
of windmills that generate wind electricity -- all of these
signs seem to be showing that we’re heading towards a
Plus, I’ve had several dreams which seem to indicate
that, though these things will be attempted, that they’re
not actually going to pan out. They will attempt to crash the
economy. It will be successful to some degree. We’re
probably going to see a pretty horrifying market vomit happen
very soon. We’re probably going to see more attempts
made to create some kind of war. I don’t think it’s
going to be successful. So, now you’ve heard my very
longwinded diatribe on all these events. [Laugh] And I’m
hoping to, whatever you’d like to talk about from here.
I think that’s great David. You’ve certainly
been very clear as to where you’re coming from, your
sources, more or less, and what you think is going to happen.
I do think that there’re some gaps in there. One of which
is the technology that you say the Rothschild side DOESN’T
have. I have to say personally I’m pretty suspicious
of that. I do have my own sighting in Switzerland to use as
documentation, if you will, of a craft that was extremely sophisticated
and was built by us, so to speak, meaning humans.
B: It could have come from anywhere on the planet, probably
in about half an hour.
D: Yeah, exactly. [Laughter from Bill and David]
but I just, there’s something about that
that doesn’t ring right for me and, you know, obviously,
I understand how you’re saying the Rockefeller side,
I mean it is, that could be substantiated by the American military
might, which has always been said to be
superior, until we get to the Russians. And there we wonder
just how sophisticated their side is. There’s indications
that the Russians are either equal to or ahead of us, but I
often wonder whether, if you’ve read The Art Of War,
you know, that one of the things you do in war is always pretend
to be less than you are.
K: So that the opposite side will be deceived.
I think it’s much more likely that that’s
what actually is going on here. That the U.S. is pretending
and, this is the hole I also see in Richard Hoagland’s
research thus far on the von Braun thing, is that U.S. is PRETENDING
to be less sophisticated than the Russians but, in fact, that’s
not the case.
I think in terms of ground troops and conventional military
force, they [the US] are at a disadvantage. There’s
been a lot credible testimony that the military has been pretty
much flattened out, that the helicopters and the tanks are
all filled with sand and most of them can’t even run.
And all they’re doing now is really just maintaining
very small territories within Iraq. They can’t even really
occupy very much of it.
it’s not a ground war anymore. We’re not
even talking, I mean actually we’ve moved way beyond
that. We’re talking about electromagnetic pulses.
but the problem with that is that in order to fight such
a war people have to know that you’re fighting it
and this is where we get into the fact that hurricanes are
being thrown around. Earthquakes are being thrown around. You
had somebody that basically liquefied the metal on that bridge
in wherever it was, Michigan.
D: That was clearly a torsion field attack.
was definitely not natural. All the different support pylons
just liquefied instantaneously and the whole darn bridge
just dropped ... in seconds. That was ...
B: It makes no sense as an attack, but it makes a lot of sense
as a demonstration, would you agree?
I, in that case I’d have to disagree with you
and I think you’ll hear me when I say this. What it DID,
is it further convinced the American people that the Bush Administration
was responsible for the infrastructure collapsing. It was a
very blatant demonstration that we were not spending enough
money on our own infrastructure. In my opinion ... that was
probably what it was intended to do.
K: OK, what about the notion that Mike McConnell headed a
coup that has already happened? If you will, sometime back
earlier this year, actually. And that his faction is very much
at war with the Bush side, the Nazis, and Dan Burisch is part
of the, is behind the Mike McConnell side.
D: That’s pretty fascinating. I know that Burisch disappeared
off the radar for several months, earlier this year, didn’t
And he’s been busy again, in case you don’t
I mean I haven’t spoken with him since, I
guess, well, we spoke together at Cal Tech and that was in
March, I think. I lectured with him about his genetic science.
K: It just, you know, because Benjamin talks about the white
hats within the military that are actually working to change
this timeline, as they call it.
I don’t doubt that for a minute.
doesn’t go against what you’ve said.
it’s actually further positive news in the same
direction, which is the people on the planet are tired of war
and bullshit. We want to see people start to get along. We
want to see the economy be good. We want to see less war, less
terrorism and we can’t continue to fight amongst each
other. How are we supposed to become a member of this galactic
society if we can’t even clean our own house up?
there’s all these other people out there and
they’re not very enlightened about ... they don’t ... they
are enlightened, but they’re not very keen on the idea
of us joining them right now, because all we want to do is
blow people up and think everybody’s a terrorist. So
we need this kind of separation and conflict mentality to fall
apart, and I think the manifestation of Sarah Palin was a BAD
mistake on McCain’s part. Because what it’s done
is, it’s basically him telling the whole country, If
you’re not a fundamentalist Christian, F you, we don’t
need your vote. We don’t even care.
as far right and pro, you know, you can’t even
have an abortion if you’re raped by your own father when
you’re 14 years old. I mean it’s ridiculous. Nobody
wants to go with that stuff. You know and what we’re
seeing, there was a brilliant article by Deepak Chopra on Huffington
Post where he was basically describing the battle between the
lower self and the higher self that’s playing itself
out in politics where Palin’s perspective, the fundamentalist
perspective, is all about my country, right or wrong.
the old Viet Nam motto. You know, it doesn’t
matter whether we screwed up, it doesn’t matter whether
we’re wrong, you know. God bless America. That’s
what they all started saying right after 911. They didn’t
say God bless humanity or God bless the world; they said God
bless our country. To try to rally everyone around the flag
and nationalism rather than, Hey, if we can figure out
why these people are so upset, then maybe they wouldn’t
want to blow us up anymore.
fact, I have an article here from Newsweek. This is June
2nd, 2008, and it’s written by a Muslim; his name
is Fareed Zakaria, and the title of the article is: The
Only Thing We Have to Fear. And what he actually demonstrates
here is that the actual amount of terrorism that’s happening
in the world has substantially decreased. However, our controlled
media is cooking the books by using the war deaths in Iraq,
calling all those deaths terrorism deaths. When in fact, it
says here the number of Islamist attacks has actually declined
65% from its high point in 2004. Fatalities from such attacks
have declined by 90%.
Iraq deaths account for 80% of all the terrorism deaths that
are being counted. So what’s happening is, in fact,
fewer and fewer people are committing these atrocities. Fewer
and fewer deaths are happening from terrorism. The world is
actually getting safer and the only place where it’s
still really messed up is in Iraq, where we’re trying
to occupy this country. So, the whole idea that we’re
in this dangerous world and that there’s all these rabid
fundamentalists out there, that are trying to kill us, is becoming
less and less true.
people who would be inclined to want to join these rabid
fundamentalist groups are not doing it. They’re
veering away from it, because everybody wants to see the planet
move to peace. Nobody wants to see this crap happen anymore.
And these guys who would have been terrorists are now seeing, hey,
if I were to successfully attack America all it’s going
to do is give them an excuse to seize more power, declare Martial
Law, try to throw people into camps -- and all this ridiculous
Nazi-fantasy stuff that I highly doubt will ever happen. And
I think that, no matter what happens in this election, we win.
And by “WE”, I mean people who desire to have
freedom and desire to stay alive and be unmolested. If McCain
steals the election by some sort of voting voodoo using the
Diebold voting machines, whatever, that STILL will lead to
the same outcome, which is it would be the catalyst to finally
mobilize the public to no longer put up with this ridiculous
stuff that’s been going on.
have Fulford saying they’ve narrowed it down
to, like, 50 guys now, that either needs to be captured or
killed. And by knocking out these 50 guys, you basically solve
the problem. And I think what they’re trying to do now
is to capture them, rather than kill them. But the point being
that they need to stand trial or, at least, maybe they won’t
even have to have that to happen.
Fulford’s deals was just stop what you’re
doing, let go of the control, we’ll let you go back to
your palaces and your mansions, but you just can’t mess
with the world anymore. And you know that kind of amnesty might
be what’s required to get this thing to work. I don’t
I’m saying is, the rest of the world is not
going to put up with it. Everybody’s waiting for the
election. Regardless of how the election turns out, things
are going to be very different after that, because they’re
not going to be allowed to do this anymore. And again, the
reason why, in my opinion, the crop circles are flagging August
16th is that’s when Russia basically got all these documents
that they WILL use -- if McCain steals the election in particular
-- to basically bring the whole thing down.
was one thing I forgot to say. Let me just say this, it’s a little side note. Now that they don’t
have the Looking Glass, they can’t see the future anymore.
They can’t predict what’s going happen. That’s
why they lost to Russia and Georgia, because they did not have
the technology anymore to see the future. They didn’t
know that Russia was going to blitzkrieg them like that. They
didn’t see that McCain was going pull an end-run on them
and declare somebody his nominee that they’d never vetted.
Both of these things are SUBSTANTIAL attacks that would have
been prevented if they still had the Looking Glass operational,
but they don’t. And again, I find it very intriguing
what you’re saying that there’s even a coup within
the American house itself, where McConnell is now leading the
factions trying to stop this stuff also.
K: OK, David I have to say that there IS a problem with the
overall thing here in regard to the Rothschilds being, as Benjamin
would say, in a sense, the good guys in this scenario.
D: Oh, I did NOT say that at all and, if you heard that, you
K: OK, well in the sense that they are not the rabid Nazis
that the faction that came over to the U.S.
I disagree, so we’re probably on the same page,
but go ahead.
right. Well let me say what I have to say here. We have this
insider named “Hawkeye” and you may
have read his material. What he talks about, he calls them
the Roths ...
K: ... all the time and, basically, he is the Roths’ boy
in the sense that he is coming to us as a whistleblower but,
at the same time, he is doing their bidding and he is saying,
he has said – and, you know, you can read it on our blog
where we put most of his posts -- he is, in essence, saying
that it’s the Rothschilds’ agenda to bring down
the United States government. To bring down the United States
and put it under the Rothschilds once and for all.
that’s the whole plan.
K: And that the concentration camps and the very dark side
of what may come down is BECAUSE of the Rothschilds and that
IS their agenda as well.
D: I would
probably agree insofar as the Rockefeller faction is less
likely to actually want to throw people in camps. They do
want the power, but, in general, they try to paint themselves
as the more pleasing of the two societies, less inclined to
try to go in this evil direction. They basically try to justify
what they’re doing as that they’re fighting this
menace, which is on the Rothschild side.
order to more fully explore what you’ve now
brought up, we have to get into the fact that, essentially,
both sides of this equation, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds,
have gone bankrupt. And when you go back to the Svali materials,
she, in my opinion, is the most thoroughly documented Illuminati
whistleblower ever to come forward. She has two complete books
worth of material that she published. She also has a whole
series of articles that she published and they are very specific
and very detailed.
actually outlines how the Rothschild side makes its money.
And it goes into pharmaceuticals; it goes into illegal gun
trade; it goes into human trafficking; it goes into the drug
trade; it goes into big media, like Hollywood; big music, like
the music industry, particularly, apparently, country music
is one of the most heavily-compromised industries within this
There’re several key elements. So essentially, the Rothschild
side is heavily invested in the media and in the pharmaceuticals
and in the illicit weapons trade. Well you just heard me read
you a statistic that shows that the demand for these illicit
weapons is plummeted by 74%. Much fewer of these attacks are
happening, so that trade is falling apart. The drug trade is
actually falling apart. More and more people are cleaning up.
Business is not what it used to be. The pharmaceutical industry
is in terrible trouble. So, Hollywood is collapsing. This past
weekend was the worst sales they’ve had since, I believe,
2004 for that particular weekend. The music industry has completely
collapsed because of illegal downloading.
press with the newspapers is collapsed, because of things
like Craig’s List. The television is collapsed,
essentially, because of streaming video like YouTube and
what we’ve done together. So what you’re seeing
again, fundamentally, is the whole economy is shifting away
from centralized power making huge profits and towards decentralized
power, in which true economic growth can occur, because it’s
much more evenly balanced.
that’s why, again, in my opinion, and from what
I’ve been shown from my own guidance, for what it’s
worth, there’s a 2-step process that’s happening
here. Step 1 is the collapse of the Rockefeller side. Step
2 is the collapse of the Rothschild side. The step one needs
to happen first, because these guys have the most potential
to do the greatest damage right now. Step 2, I don’t
think is far behind. And I do believe that, like with Fulford’s
faction, and just with the dawning public awareness, their
plans will not work.
if you actually get into what the Rothschild side wants:
first of all, they are devotedly Luciferian, which is essentially
Satanic. They want a New World Order where they are seen
as gods and liberators. They want us to ACCEPT them that
way. They want to create a global economic collapse, which
is their script that, by creating this collapse first, that
they will then be seen as our rescuers. And in so rescuing
us they will basically come out of the closet, say here’s
who we are, here’s what we’re doing.
your leaders, these 13 families which are at the head of
the thing. And we want to be, you know, we want to be your
benevolent gods on the planet. And it’s like
they’re so wrapped up in their own cult that they don’t
realize - everyone who’s not a part of it - it’s
a complete fantasy.
Nobody’s going to want to go along with it. Even though
they’ve created so many movies that promote their agenda
-- and one of the all time best movies, which is not a very
good movie, entertainment-wise, but one of the most blatant
movies they ever made, was Daredevil, with Ben Affleck.
That movie is an Illuminati handbook from the 1st frame to
the last frame, every single shot.
K: Eyes Wide Shut is another paramount example.
absolutely. That was where Kubrick was trying to blow the
whistle and come out with all sorts of information to sort
of show what was going on. But again, it’s probably the
case of, you know, one group against another kind of thing.
So no, in no way would I ever want to be seen to be overtly
supporting the Rothschild faction as in any way benevolent
or the good guys.
All I’m saying is that it appears that what’s
happening right now is that, for a short time, they will appear
to win. They will appear to pull into the lead and bring down
the Rockefeller faction. But they also are very weak. They
also have lost strength of their own membership; their own
members want to get out badly. Most of the people in this group
are not there by choice, but they’re there because they
were born into it. And if they tried to escape, they would
be killed. And they don’t like it.
And I think
your friend, Hawkeye, is just one of many examples. In this
case somebody who’s very high ranking, apparently,
from what you’re telling me, who still is, like, betraying
his own so-called family, because he doesn’t want to
be involved in this thing either. It may appear that I’m
coming at this from a sort of Pollyanna, glass-half-full perspective.
And I can hear people that want to say that to me. And that’s
All I’m saying is that part of what informs my opinion
is a very reliable and consistent intuitive track record in
which I have been given extensive information on the Rothschild
faction. In fact, I’ve studied them intuitively a lot
more than the Rockefeller side. The Rockefeller side is...
a lot of that I’ve learned from actually talking to people
who are in it.
the Rothschild side, I got to talk Svali a little bit, but
most of it has come from dedicated research and also intuitive
viewing, which then has been borne out in terms of the changes
in the economy that we’re seeing. So I do
feel that the planet is moving in a positive direction. I do
feel that these groups are being exposed. And that part of
what’s happening at this time in humanity is a mass awakening
in which people are learning about this stuff. And from knowledge
comes a healing -- because you can only sustain a conspiracy
for so long.
Nostra [ La Cosa Nostra ] was, you know, the Italian mafia,
used to be a secret society. It all fell apart and now everybody
make movies about it. And I think what you’re
going to see with all these secret factions are the same thing.
The internet has basically brought them down already. I mean
everybody knows what’s going on. It’s amazing that
these guys, as Fulford has said, haven’t already been
dragged into the streets.
any of these groups that are basically anti life. That are
trying to genocide the planet to reduce population, for whatever
reason they feel they need to. All that stuff is unraveling.
And again, some people might want to call me naïve but
when you have something happen like, hey go read page a
hundred in book III, and you find out that, on that exact
day, it’s been 720 cycles of 18 days since you were born.
It’s one of those consistent exclamation points that
I keep getting to show me that I’m on the right track,
that my information is reliable. So, there you have it. [Laughs]
K: OK, David, thank you so much. Bill, did you have any other
B: I’ve got a bunch and I’m sure, Kerry, you have,
too; but this is actually a 2 hour conversation -- my feeling
is it’s not actually appropriate to take it in a whole
host of different directions, because we easily all could and
we could have a barrel of fun doing it.
K: Yeah. Absolutely
this feels like a very concise presentation which will help
people’s understanding -- like as an understanding
aid to help interpret a lot of the events which have been happening
and which may happen in the immediate future -- which is what
a lot of our listeners will appreciate this for. And it seems
like this recording has worked pretty well. It would be fun
to do it another time David, if your ever interested in having
another conversation. We’ve got a lot of questions stored
up and you’ve probably got a lot more stored up to say.
What do you think?
D: It’s sort of regrettable in one sense that there
IS SO much exposition required to just establish the basic
discussion as I’ve now done, in terms of all this different
research that’s come together from so many different
sources. And I agree that you must have hundreds and hundreds
of questions coming out of all this. What I can say is, as
you guys already know, unfortunately, our paths are not crossing
favorably, because I’m leaving on Thursday for 2 weeks.
I’ll be back on the 25th of September.
I’m working in the studio on a vocal music album called
Wanderer Awakening, but after that time, I would be more than
happy to continue this discussion. And, by then, you probably
will have a whole litany of questions from your discussion
forum of people wanting to know more about this or that or
the other. And I also have said to you guys that I’d
like to be put in touch with Benjamin Fulford, if possible,
because I think some of the things he’s talked about
in terms of how the world is changing in a positive direction
dovetail nicely with what I know and I think he’d be
interested to hear what I have to say on that stuff. So I hope
that will happen. I also, of course, speak a little Japanese
and used to have a Japanese girlfriend, so there’re some
interesting crossovers there.
K: We’ll definitely put you in touch with Benjamin,
that’s not a problem at all. The only thing I want to
say here, David, is that, unlike what Bill is saying in terms
of questions, I think what we would have are alternate points
of view, things to add and to get into things a little deeper,
you know, from differing points of view. I think that’s
what we would bring to the table. I appreciate that you’re
happy to do that as well.
And there’re so many others like us doing the same thing
right now and that’s part of the wonderful puzzle that
we’ve got going on here, that there are people coming
forward, truth tellers -- people putting themselves on the
line to tell the truth and this is what makes your research
possible and actually Project Camelot possible. And so we’ll
do this again soon.
and I just again want to say “thank you” for
creating a platform in which people who have something to share
like myself can come forward and be able to give their perspective
and be heard. Of course I do that on my own website and I also
have consistently been gratified by the efforts that you guys
have made to seek out these witnesses and interview them. I
think you’ve done a great job and I’m glad to continue
to share my perspective with you so sometime after September
25th, when I get back from my studio work on the album we’ll
continue the conversation. I look forward to it.
K: Great. Take care, David. Thanks a lot.
you guys so much. It’s been a great pleasure.
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