Dr Brian O'Leary
Vilcabamba, January, 2009
Brian O’Leary: [background laughter] ... I knew the media would take
over. [laughter] No, actually that’s Kerry. She’s
one of the speakers, too, so she gets a pass on this one.
Kerry Cassidy: That’s a great start. I want to hear
Brian O’Leary: Welcome to Montesuenos, Vilcabamba, Ecuador,
South America, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy.
And this is truly remarkable because when we first put this
conference together, which was less than a month ago, I think,
from this remote outpost, all of a sudden all of you decided
to come here.
And I’m blown away. I would have been surprised that
in a program like this at such a remote location, that maybe
we’d have 20 people, and we’d have an intimate
seminar and gathering and conversational affair. But no! Look
what happened! And so I say welcome. [laughter, applause]
How many of you have traveled from afar, in other words, let’s
say, from another continent? That’s most of you. Wow.
Well, congratulations once again, and welcome once again. Bienvenidos.
I thought I’d start out with a very short
kind of meditation because obviously we are in a time of great
crisis and opportunity, and today is all about that. It’s
all about further defining the crisis behind the scenes, mostly
from a gentleman whom I’ve known for a long time and
who has extraordinary information, both logically in the left
brain 3D world, and also from off-planet sources.
And that’s George Green. He’s sitting right over
there. George is going to be the main speaker today and I’m
sure many of you who know him already, know of his work, are
really looking forward to it.
But I thought I’d start with a short mediation. And
the meditation is really simply a very easy one. Just close
your eyes and just take a deep breath. Then exhale any negativity
and the chattering mind and all of that kind of interference.
And breathe in again and this time imagine this tremendous
amount of light that’s present in our beautiful valley.
It’s very accessible here. And then exhale again. And
then inhale again and imagine this light just filling your
body and protecting you and allowing you to be an agent of
And with each successive breath, let that light accumulate
around you, your neighbors, the house, the village, all of
Ecuador, and the entire world, and especially towards those
that are suffering. And just give thanks for this opportunity
to come together. And then slowly come back into the room.
Open our eyes, and...
I wanted to do this. I know George is going to do one, too,
because part of the context of the crisis we’re in is
that there’s just so many extraordinary things going
on. We’re kind of in fast-forward toward an unknown destiny.
But it’s quite extraordinary, isn’t it? Because
the results of this... at least in our linear minds, the
results could either be total catastrophe, nuclear war, whatever;
escalation of what’s going on in the Middle East; Earth
You know what the crisis is. You wouldn’t be here if
you didn’t know a lot about what the crisis we’re
in is. And that it’s also far more serious than you would
be lead to believe by the media or by our political leaders.
And so, we... Meredith and I moved here to Ecuador rather
suddenly. And I can give you all the reasons, but the main
reasons were that we saw unrest coming up in the US. And we
were like the second visible gringo to move here.
By visible I mean not wanting to go, let’s
say, into the woodwork and just stay there. Because we’re
still actively... many of us now in this room are very
much actively involved in interacting with the culture. But
we were basically the second. And that was four and half years
And we rented a one-room tiny, modest, cottage which was ostensibly
going to be a ma-and-pa retirement home. And then about a year
later, when our visions exceeded our wildest thoughts because
we wanted to build a small house. Here, at this site, it was
just a foundation then. And the bathroom over there, that used
to be an outhouse. The kitchen used to be the original farm
And so, Meredith and I were off on a trip -- and this was
about maybe a half a year into our construction -- and the
builder made a mistake. He built this huge roof here. And we
didn’t ask for that. We just wanted a small house.
But we looked at each other in amazement and we said to each
other: Wow. This is bigger than we are! And that’s
been the story of Montesuenos ever sense. We finished, not
really finished, but finished this phase of the construction.
A few months ago we had what was called The Phoenix Gathering.
This bunch of visionaries came in from all over the world.
Now you’ve come in from all over the world -- and besides
the carbon debit of using fossil fuels in jets, I say it’s
really great -- but that, of course, in the future may not
be the situation, so in a way that makes this all the more
poignant to be able to personally get together like this before
something else might happen.
I don’t want to come from fear, however, and that’s... One
reason why I said the little meditation was that there was
the presence of some fear prior to this conference. Now, those
of you that are astrologers would say: Oh, that’s
just because Mercury’s in retrograde and the full Moon’s
in Cancer. Or whatever.
But, you know, it really has been an extraordinary
week that way. We almost felt like canceling the conference,
the element of fear was so high. And then it just evaporated.
And that seems to be true of this place. It’s maybe a
little bit like Mount Shasta. It’s... the weather
moves in, but it moves out just as fast as it moves in.
So I mean I’m looking at all of you and I don’t
see any ... Any of you from the CIA here? [laughter] It’s
OK. You’re welcome. [laughter] You know, I often urge
some of the people that are involved in cover-ups and all of
that to join us, and, you know, take part in this enlightenment,
or whatever you want to call it.
So anyway, this is Montesuenos. It’s a retreat center.
We hope you can come back. I would love to meet all of you
personally and spend some time with you. And we do have residency
programs here, and all sorts of things. So that’s fine.
And I also want to introduce Meredith, my artist-wife. [applause]
Meredith: You should introduce this painting.
Brian: Oh, I will. I’ll get around to that. There’s
a painting behind me that she did. It’s called The
Last Supper of Gaia. But we’ll get into that a little
bit later. And indeed it is a last supper / resurrection, whether
you want to take Christian, Jewish, or indigenous metaphor.
It’s all... We are headed somewhere. We’re
on this journey, and it’s quickening.
What I wanted to talk about today, just very briefly -- because
I want George to take most of the day because his information
and sharing is just wonderful, and he’s come from afar.
And the piece that I’ve been working on is free energy.
And I can tell you categorically that in the 1990s... well
maybe I’ll go back a little further. Here I was, a typical
left-brain academic, reductionistic / materialistic 3-dimensional
physicist, a physics professor at Princeton University. And
I took a Lifespring Training one weekend, and I had
a remote viewing experience. And then I had a near death experience
in an auto accident. Then I had some healing experiences. And
then I left Princeton. [laughter]
My colleagues did not believe... In fact, you
know, here I was, swilling thimblefuls of sherry at the Joseph
Henry Luncheons every other Tuesday. And the other professors
there, of which there were seven Nobel Laureates, all
males, would swill the sherry and talk about how ridiculous
claims to the paranormal are.
And having just had paranormal experiences, I said: Gee!
This isn’t my tribe, even though I had some 40
years in it.
Well, now we fast-forward to 30 years later and I’m
really glad I went on a metaphysical journey which sent me
in many directions.
But I was always thinking of solutions: What is it that
we can do for the culture that can really make a difference?
And what is the truth of the matter, of why it’s suppressed
as well as why it exists?
So I go back and forth between truth-telling consciousness
and the consciousness of actually going into the solutions
and thinking positively.
And, in a way, I think that’s our job
here, is to be able to be respectful and understanding of where
each of us is at personally in our growth, and understanding
happening and what could be.
So, I got into the free energy business, if you would call
it that. It’s not really a business because, as George
knows, I can’t really sell my books. People aren’t
reading books anymore. Well, I sell a few here and there. So
that’s not why... I’m not in any kind of commercial
business this way.
It’s more like... Well, my exploration of various
modalities in so-called “new science” has now been
a journey that has taken me three decades and has sent me in
many unexpected directions. One of the least-expected directions
was when I traveled the world and visited many researchers
and inventors of so-called free energy devices.
And at that point I was skeptical. Even though I was openly
embracing the UFO / ET phenomenon, a lot of paranormal things
and healing, and blah-blah-blah, I hadn’t tackled the
But also, because I had been a professor at various universities
of science policy assessment, and advised presidential candidates,
and Congress, and so forth, on energy policy, I thought I’d
be an... And since my PhD was in atmospheric science,
I was kind of a natural to begin to look at the question of
climate change, atmospheric pollution, water pollution, and
And believe me, it is dire. It’s just as dire as the
Doomsdayers say about what’s coming down on the planet – just
sheerly physically, you know. Just looking at the physical
observations without any esoteric at all, it’s very clear
that human interference with the planet it creating an accelerating
instability that will trigger other phenomena.
And it’s just an outrage to me. I mean, I invested my
heart and soul. After having studied deep ecology and done
more spiritual things, I just began to realize that: Gee,
we’re losing our Earth! And we’re doing it fast!
And it’s our species that’s doing it!
And many of us come from the most powerful nation in the world
and our leaders... Bush was one extreme, of course. I’m
wanting to say good riddance. Are you here, Mr. Bush? No. I
didn’t think so.
Well, no, no. I actually... I have to introduce a prop
here. I have an alter-ego. The alter-ego’s called the
Lapis Pig. He’s a Jim Henson’s Creature Shop Muppet.
And he’s therapy for me.
He’s basically that part of me that I
want to leave behind. He is the physics professor at Princeton,
but is also out for his career and for money. And his hero
is Dick Cheney. [laughter] And his fixation is money. So this
is the Lapis Pig.
Lapis Pig: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [pig
snort noises] Have you paid your registration fee? [snort,
snort] Only if you have tendered monies are you to be admitted
here and you shall do this or else you will perish ... [snorting
pig noises] ... [laughter, applause]
Brian: Well, anyway, that’s my alter-ego. And
whenever I get stuck on some sort of issue like money or career
or trying to impress people, or whatever it is, I get out The
Pig and act it out.
And his mate, by the way, is the Ivory Pig. She’s up
there in the puppet window. She’s a Valley Girl. And
you can see how they’d get along very well because he’d
go in plutocratically and make as much money as possible, and
she would get her swimming pool and this and that.
But now I understand that here in Ecuador – and there’s
a lot of things happening in this country and I hope your visit
will be a little longer. And this is a bit of an advertisement,
but we may have a room available here for the next three days.
One suddenly freed up.
But I hope some of you stay a little longer and kind of check
out this place. It’s a beautiful country. Politically
I think it’s as favorable as any that I know of on the
planet right now, in terms of intention. It’s not perfect.
Right now the government is kind of trying to walk this line
between giving in to the multi-national oligarchal empire interests,
and wanting to become as independent as possible.
And of course that feeds right into the re-localization movement,
which I know many of us are really getting more and more interested
in -- growing our own food, everything local, barter systems
and local currency, etcetera, etcetera, and just ride out this
period, no matter what happens globally.
And I think this is one of the better spots to do that. Meredith
and I think that. Really, we just love living here. And we
also love the people here. Our only concern is over-development. The
gringos are coming! The gringos are coming!
We’ve had a lot of people come to town and visit us
and ask us questions. I know we have Susan and Walter here,
who’ve been here for almost as long as we have. I’m
sure, Susan, you’ve had thousands of questions asked
of you: Oh, what’s it like here? Oh, can we do this?
And, actually, Susan has some property, too. So, you know,
there are places you can settle that are very beautiful here,
but we’re hoping there won’t be too, too many people.
As they say down here, the Podocarpus Freeway,
the Loja Freeway. [laughter]
And you know, the Lapis Pig wants to build a statue of himself
up on that flat top mountain and then have oil wells and condominiums
and golf courses and tramways. Anyway, that could happen here.
It’s like this could become another San Fernando Valley.
We hope not. The Ivory Pig might like that, but I think that
many of you would not. I think we’re all kind of naturalists
So I want to get back to this energy piece just a little bit
and it’s in part because George just brought back with
him – and it’s the first time I gaze my eyes on
it -- is my new book, The Energy Solution Revolution.
It’s available here. But it’s kind of my estimate
of what’s going on around this question of breakthrough
Because what I discovered during the 1990s when I traveled
the world and visited many of the inventors, and I wrote some
books about my travels and interviews with these people and
observations of their experiments, is that the concepts are
There is abundant energy that comes from the
vacuum of space and it can be tapped under certain conditions.
For example, you can have special magnets that resonate with
this hypothesized zero point. And the physics of all of this
is understood, actually, from the theoretical perspective.
Actually, this potential energy field is forced into existence
by quantum theory and by Eastern thought. The Vedas knew this.
It goes way back, the knowledge that the universe has a tremendous
amount of potential energy.
And we know it also from consciousness, that we can tap into
that energy force. It’s sometimes called etheric energy.
It’s sometimes called orgone energy. It’s
sometimes called.... There are a thousand names for it,
but it’s all pretty much the same thing. And it’s
more akin to Eastern thought and indigenous thought than any
kind of Lapis Pig western scientist.
In fact, as soon as I started to do experiments in consciousness... And
some of the work was done with my colleague at Princeton, Robert
Jahn, who is the Dean of the School of Engineering.
He did some of the pioneering work with random-event generators,
where a human being would go into the laboratory and focus
their intention on a particular result, like flipping coins,
except this is an electronic device. And it actually became
one of those situations where there were significant results
over time. It’s like flipping a coin and you get... You
say you want more heads than tails, and indeed you get heads.
Those kinds of things are the result of human intention. In
other words, the mind or the heart, or whatever you want to
call it, the human being, can influence the results in the
Well, those experiments were just totally messed up by the
physics department, the engineering... Here was the Dean
of the School of Engineering, the Energy-Engineering Department.
The Dean of Faculty tried to dismiss him even though he had
And this happens to many people. It happened with John Mack,
a leading abduction researcher at Harvard. And it’s happened
to many other people. Professors are stripped of their credentials. The
Inquisition is alive and well in America and elsewhere
in the world. So these things do happen.
But Bob Jahn’s work is, nevertheless, seminal work.
It’s now being followed up at a more popular, more pervasive
level by other researchers that show beyond any reasonable
doubt that human consciousness...
[Aside]: You know, there’s a little bit of static. I
don’t know what that’s all about. But I guess it’s
Voice: It’s soul energy.
Brian: It’s just the energy. Yes.
So, when I started to travel the world and visit all of these
researchers, it dawned on me that... You know, it’s
kind of a simple deduction, but it’s possible that if
we had a billion little power-packs that could generate electricity
from the ether, or from the vacuum of space, that we could
solve the energy problem. It’s a pretty obvious deduction.
So it occurred to me that: Gee, maybe I should report
on this. Maybe I should do a little research on this. Maybe
I should network with people. So, you know, we held... Some
of us with scientific backgrounds held various conferences,
brought in some of the inventors.
At one point a software billionaire was going to fund the
whole effort. That was back in the early 1990s. And then he
suddenly backed out. I’ll tell you why he backed out.
For this we need the Lapis Pig.
Lapis Pig: If you would like to know my opinion? [snort!]
I am not dipping into the River of Optimized Profits, [snort!]
and will therefore wait until people blunder with their devices
until we get the one that’s most efficacious financially.
Brian: And that’s exactly how he reacted. He didn’t
want to dip into the River of Optimized Profits.
And so, one thing after another; one time after another, these
wonderful devices... And some of them are magnetic motors.
Some of them are little solid-state devices. Some of them are
cold fusion devices. Some of them are on the concept of sono-luminescence.
There are many, many different technologies. There’s
ways of splitting water, where you get more energy out of it
than quantum theory would predict -- and that’s traditional
quantum theory, not the quantum theory that you really need
to get into, which involves consciousness.
So you kind of get the picture is that science is struggling,
just like many of us, struggling into the 21st century. And
it just happened that the societal choice that was made by
a lot of people was... Cutting-edge technology might be
the internet. That’s like magic.
But this could happen with energy, too. But the problem is
that it’s been suppressed, it has been turned. Because
it’s a huge threat to the status quo to supplant an,
about 5-trillion-dollar industry, mostly vested in fossil fuels
-- to just supplant that with something that’s cheap,
clean, safe, decentralized.
And so, what do you do about this? Well, my project in writing
this book – it’s been a six-year project just came
to a culmination – and I came up with many, many reasons.
First of all, first and foremost I would say, the scientists
are suppressing the work, because people that call themselves
scientists are really technicians of the current western paradigm.
And if you break those ranks, you’re out.
I mean, once I left Princeton, that was it. My career was
kind of shot. What I had to do was get very energetic and go
to a Unity or Christian Science church every Sunday and hold
forth, and that kind of helped my kids get through college
in the end. So, you know, I was able to piece together a quasi-career
over the last 30 years and just get by, pretty much.
And then, there are just so many of these free energy devices
-- that’s the point. Getting back to that thought is
any one of which could be a big breakthrough but it’s
been suppressed. And the scientists are among the first to
suppress it. There are so many suppression stories, but why
go through them? You know. They’re there. They’re
You know what I mean. Bertrand Russell said: The
resistance to a new idea increases as the square of its importance. [laughter]
And when you’re talking about really important concepts,
there are diversionary tactics that happen in the culture.
And the scientists are usually the first line of defense against
importance, and in favor of the status quo.
And then you radiate outwards. There’s the media. Of
course, the media has been terribly irresponsible. I used to
have access to media all the time when I was a “mainstream
scientist.” You know, I’d be on the CBS Evening
News and the Today Show, and blah-blah-blah.
But as soon as I began to even embrace the possibility that
maybe UFOs are a real phenomenon, or that energy sources could exist
that transcend our current paradigm... as soon as I stepped
into that territory, I was persona non grata.
And that’s true of many, many scientists. And the situation
can even get worse. If you’re really effective at what
you’re doing, the situation can even get worse.
It lead me to write... One of the chapters in my new
book is called Confessions of a Scientific Heretic: A Legend
or a Story about the Carrot and the Stick. And carrots
are dangled in front of people that are reasonably... especially
scientists that are reasonably effective in their breakthrough
ideas to save the planet... and the carrot is to divert
them away from that. That’s the general story.
And then the stick is: Well, if you don’t do that...
Whack! You know, it could a threat. It could be assassination.
It could be any number of things.
You know, I’ve been through the mill myself. I can say
it from direct and personal experience. And many others have,
And so, tomorrow’s theme is going to be more along the
lines of truth-telling and what’s really happening out
there that’s been suppressed and now needs to be more
into the public light -- and that is our ability to step outside
the box of normal inquiry. So there are a number of different
free energy technologies.
I talked about consciousness. I think it’s really important
for us to know that... Even though we’re being divided
and ruled right now, still I think the answer in terms of consciousness
-- if there is an answer at all, if we can solve this human
condition and global crisis dilemma -- then the one technology
or tool that I think is very powerful potentially is Combined
Positive Human Intention.
Now, there’ve been some popular books written about
this, like McTaggart, The Intention Experiment. I
write it up in some of my earlier books about how scientific
experiments show without any doubt that we, through groups
of people coming together, aligned in intention, can really
affect the material world. They can heal people. They can purify
water. And they can do it even on a global scale. I mean, people
are beginning to do experiments like that.
I think that would be one of the things the indigenous peoples
could help facilitate, this coming together in those kinds
of experiments, because there’s absolutely no danger
in an experiment like that.
And some experiments actually show that if the intention is
positive, the combined intention, it’s far more powerful
than combined negative human intention.
And so, I think that this is really the... how shall
I say it... the Holy Grail, to use a Camelot phrase, a
Holy Grail of our time. It’s the basis of the science
of the 21st century that’s longing to be born. It isn’t
I think it was Max Planck that said: Science progresses
with each funeral. And sometimes we have to wait for
the old order to die out. Well, we may not have that kind
of time right now, so we need to come up with ways of coming
together and combining our positive intention. That’s
the ultimate science, I think.
Free energy in and of itself, I think is also a possibility.
It’s just that we don’t want Dick Cheney running
that one, too. It then becomes more of a human problem, a social
problem, a political problem, economic problem, than it is
a technical one. The technologies are there. But whenever anybody
tries to develop it, it’s so thwarted in one way or another.
And so you have to ask the question: Well, can we create
a world in which it’s possible to facilitate this development,
this kind of development? And I always hold out the
hope that maybe we can. We can discuss this later, of course.
Or, if we can’t -- and George will talk about this quite
a bit, later. Let’s say we can’t. Well then, localization
makes a big difference, and we need to work on our own spiritual
growth, as George’s books so aptly tell, especially the
most recent one, The Ground Crew, that we need to
come together in local communities, become independent, become
centers of light, and maybe even...
I don’t know if you ever read a book by Morris Berman
called Twilight of the American Culture, but he’s
a mainstream sociologist and he basically says: Well, yeah,
we’re in for a Dark Age, folks. Let’s just prepare
for it. And he uses the metaphor of the monastery or the
monastic kind of little centers of light in an otherwise dark
And that might be what comes down. I don’t know. Or
maybe... I don’t know if we can get help from off-planet.
Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on the degree of help. But these
are all questions that George can address much better than
The point being, though, that we can do it in principle, but
we need to be less divided and ruled. And we also need to get
off of the sheeple principle.
And the credibility of free energy... You know, I was
just giving you some examples of the suppression. And I’ve
come to the conclusion, and my colleague Wade Frazier has come
to the same conclusion, which is that to understand free energy
and its potential, you almost have to have a certain degree
of sentience. [laughter]
It defies logic that people that are otherwise very intelligent,
what Wade would call the structuralists, people like
Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein and so forth, that a lot of these
progressives that are great critics of the way things are in
our culture, they don’t want to embrace more transcendental
questions like: Well, maybe it’s possible there exist
technologies that could be researched that would provide clean,
cheap, safe, abundant, decentralized free energy as a solution.
But it doesn’t even enter the minds of people. And I
know this. Because I used to have media access about all this
About two months ago the BBC gave me a call and they said: We’re
doing a Special on new energy.
And I said: Great.
And they said: We’d like to interview you about
And I said: Great.
But this is the first time I’ve ever
been invited to a media appearance and then uninvited. [laughter]
Obviously the producer ran it up the flag to the executive
producer who said: Not allowed.
In other words, the Lapis Pigs are in charge. No question
about it. You don’t even have to be paranoid, conspiracy
theory, because it actually can be cool. Even though it’s
denigrated by the mainstream culture, I’d like to think
of conspiracy theorists as truth-seekers and not necessarily
always paranoid, which is the societal definition.
So. OK. Getting back to free energy. There are so many sources
of suppression, but I think the main one, in its own way, is us. We are
the biggest suppressors. It’s not the bad boys, the guys
that are doing horrible things in the New World Order and stuff.
Yeah, they’re controlling things a lot.
But to the degree that we can become awakened and that we
can take action is the degree to which we will be able to prevail.
So I really think that we are the biggest suppressors.
And when you peel the onion... It’s like a metaphysical
journey, in a sense, and it’s also an intellectual journey.
When you peel the onion of free energy, where people give all
the reasons in the world: Oh yeah! Tell me when I can go
down to K-Mart and get mine. Well, that doesn’t
What helps is: How can I help? What’s going on here?
What kinds of devices are out there? Can I build one? Can
I get support for this? Do I need to be quiet about it, or
should I be publicly transparent? So all of these questions
immediately come to mind, if you can even grasp the possibility
Now, you know, I remember back in 1961. I was just graduating
from college and John F. Kennedy got before a joint Congress,
and he said: I believe that by the end of the decade we
shall land a man on the Moon. We shall not flounder in the
backwash. Anyway, JFK, you know, he set a transformational
Now, we’re setting aside all the stuff of: Well, did
we in fact go to the Moon? Well, we at least went around the
Moon. We know that. But landing? Maybe, maybe not. I’ll
have to watch a CD on that one.
But the point here being that every once in a while a transcendental
goal is publicly acknowledged and it was with that spirit that
I felt, for so many years, a very positive experiment. I was
an Eagle Scout. I grew up in the ’40s and ’50s,
and, you know, when World War II was over, we were the good
guys. It was a happy time, pretty much. And a visionary time.
And when Kennedy set that goal, I was just ready to get right
in there and be a part of it. So in 1967 I was appointed as
the first astronaut to go to Mars, when it was still in NASA’s
program plan. However, one year later, because of Vietnam,
it was cancelled. Then I became a Vietnam protestor.
And so, in those days things were very positive. Now the whole
atmosphere is repressive. Suppressive. And we just have to
acknowledge that, but realize that...
Well, I always like to hold out hope that we can have leaders
who see the light and that can set a transcendental goal. Even
if it’s something as simple...
You know, I did a little work with Dennis Kucinich on this
question: How do you, as a politician, phrase this so that
it’s palatable? Because it isn’t palatable
to The Powers That Be to develop free energy. Believe Me! You
know, it takes away from their power and their profits.
So how do you do this? So I was designing a few statements
and speeches that he actually gave for a while, but then he
kind of withdrew from that. I don’t know if anybody gave
him a phone call or what.
But what I drafted for him was, basically,
leave any stone unturned in our quest for clean energy. I mean,
that’s a politically positive statement. Then you can
at least slip it into a renewable energy program.
And one of the things that I studied for this book... because
I get this happening every day. I get about ten emails a day
trying to vet this, and this, and this, concept or technology,
whether it’s free energy or whether it’s just the
latest renewable, traditional renewable energy source.
So like one day I might get: What about the air car? What
about this kind of bio-fuel that’s based on algae?
What about thin films for solar collection? What about this
new material for windmills?
And, to my way of thinking, in a most general way, the news
is bad. It’s none of the above when you really come down
to it, if you’re going to support 6 billion people on this
planet. Now, some people don’t want to support 6 billion
people on the planet. We have to put that into consideration.
But let’s assume we want to provide for everybody.
Well, windmills would cost... the capital cost to have
a wind economy for the entire world and associated grid system
would be about 30 trillion dollars. Well, that kind of money,
of course, we can use to bail out Wall Street, but to come
up with a solution? No. And it’s very materials-intensive.
And it’s land-intensive. And it’s intermittent
And solar energy is even more expensive. And I’m not
trying to say that’s bad or wrong. I’m just saying: Well,
hmmm. Are these really the answers?
But you see, what’s happening now is that there’s
not only a dumbing-down of this kind of analysis -- kind of
almost deliberately-rigged dumbing-down -- but you get promotional
hypes from various quarters. And right now Obama’s beginning
to embrace the dirtier of the more renewable technologies --
like clean coal, or nuclear. That’s not renewable. That’s
He’s not very far along in the curve. Of course, there
could be reasons for that we find out later. But the point
is, he’s not far along on the curve.
But all the “Solar-topia” people... And I
don’t object to that. We could have a future with traditional
renewables. But that’s like discussing dirigibles and
balloons, which the Wright brothers already flew.
It’s not the kind of thing that is going to be our future.
Actually, consciousness will be our future. I mean,
we will be able to do magic. However, do we have a future?
And that’s a big question because of the turning that
we’re involved in now.
And that’s, I think, one of the reasons why we’re
going to be developing the theme of Camelot in the most general
way, and then we go to Project Camelot. Because in a sense,
Camelot was an attempt... the JFK presidency... was
an attempt to come up with a kingdom, if you will, or whatever
you want to call it, a political unit that is compassionate
and would seek the truth.
And right now I think we’re in a position to want to
have a truth and reconciliation process in the United States,
certainly in Israel. In Israel right now there’s apartheid going
on, just like South Africa. There has to be some sort of process
to initiate the truth.
And there are some truths, of course, that
-- like David Ray Griffin in his writings -- there’s
some truths that are discarded and instead become sacred
his phrase for it. So, like 9/11, the official story is a sacred
myth. The nonexistence of free energy is a sacred myth, that
all we can do is wind, solar, and so forth, and look
backwards without looking forward.
But, you see, the free energy question... Even when you
think of sheer logic, the inevitable conclusion you come to
-- and you don’t even have to be sentient. You don’t
even have to believe in it -- all you have to have is a head
on your shoulders to be able to use some logic, saying: Well,
maybe this is possible, so let’s research it. After all,
the amount of investment for the research would be equivalent
to a few hours of fighting in Iraq. You would think that might
be worth it.
But, no. It’s not even mentioned. In fact, it’s
a no-no. It’s definitely not to be considered.
Because I’ve been looking at these questions socially
rather than technically. I kind of burned out on the technical
stuff, you know, I trained as a physicist, I went and visited these
inventors. I’ve described them. I’ve written them
So now I’ve gone on to say: Well, logically, if
this is possible, why don’t we do it? And what’s
holding us back? And of course we know it’s The
Powers That Be and people allowing TPTB to do that to us.
So that’s up to us, you see. The social and political
process is up to us. But any logical person, any intelligent
person who is not in denial would say: Well, let’s
check it out. Let’s see if this is possible. Let’s
see if we can have truly clean energy. And that would
solve many of the problems that we have now in the environment.
What I want to do is discuss briefly Meredith’s painting
that is behind me. It’s called The Last Supper of
Gaia. And then I wrote this book, Miracle in the Void, which
is... The chapters of the book correspond to the disciples
around the table of Gaia. It’s a feminine version of
the standard Last Supper paintings.
So here on the left side, you have the Disciple of Denial.
He’s hiding behind the American flag, watching television
that’s plugged into the grid system. And it’s basically
dumbing-down. And there’s almost no hope at that stage.
But, you see, some of this work that we’ve done is based
on the work of Elisabeth Kubler-Ross that, when you lose a
loved one or get a terminal diagnosis, that there are various
stages of grief that you need to go through, various emotions.
And the first one’s always denial: This can’t
happen. It’s not! This isn’t for me. And so,
this is the Disciple of Denial.
And then usually you go to Anger, this disciple up here. In
this painting, it’s the comet colliding with Jupiter,
so you get a thing with the Excalibur sword and Jupiter, in
the comet hitting Jupiter. That’s the Disciple of Anger.
The bumper sticker I had for many years in California before
we moved here said: The truth will set you free but first
it will piss you off. [laughter]
This can’t happen. I don’t want it to happen.
Who did it? I think there are probably a lot of people
right now in that zone. I’ve been going through that
zone. And it’s not necessarily a linear progression,
either. It’s... you can be angry and also in denial.
But you kind of get the picture, is that a lot of people are
really angry with what’s going on. And probably increasingly
so. So that’s another phase of grief.
And then bargaining: How do we fit the
round pegs in square holes? Maybe the US government can do
it. Maybe Obama can do it.
And then, when that doesn’t work -- and it usually doesn’t,
you know, rationalizing these things -- then depression. Nothing
else seems to work -- very, very much into depression.
And this is what usually happens when a loved
one dies. In this case the loved one is the Earth. I think
as we resonate with the Earth, we feel a tremendous amount
of unconscious fear, denial of what’s going on, anger
about how it’s
being raped, bargaining about: Well, maybe this would do
it. Maybe solar will do it. Maybe Obama will do it. Maybe,
maybe, maybe. And then depression when none of that works.
And then... the good news is that then you go over to
the other side of the table and the disciple way on the right
is the Disciple of Acceptance, and that’s usually the
final phase of the grief process where you say: Well, OK.
This stuff happened. Gaia’s dead.
I accept the co-existence of the old and the new, that we’re
almost like splitting into two different consciousnesses. One
is the consciousness that’s directed toward solutions,
and the other one directed into the accepting the what-is,
as it is, but not doing it in a way that’s totally passive
and where you’re just sitting here and denying it, or
in depression where you’re just not very effective at
anything, you know, just sorry for yourself.
According to Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, people need to go through
these emotions, and I think in a sense humanity is going through
these emotions with respect to the loss of Mother Earth. That’s
why it’s so important now to kind of passionately use
whatever means we can to address that question about what we
can do. And I think there are really solutions.
So there’s Acceptance, then the Disciple of Creativity,
Enlightenment, Empowerment, Joy, and Transcendence. And then,
there’s the transcendent Gaia.
Meredith really ought to be here to interpret it, but this
priest here holding the sword... he’s laying down
his weapons, his battle weapons. And by the way, we have the
Excalibur sword here. We’re going to do a ceremony tomorrow
morning with that to set the stage for Camelot.
So.. and there’s the resurrected Gaia.
So this is kind of the symbolism of what we were working on
for years, oh, I guess about ten years ago, after I traveled
and visited the free energy inventors.
Now, one final thing, and then I’m going to hand it
over to George. We’ve had one workshop here so far. It
was called The Phoenix Gathering. I don’t know if you’ve
ever heard of this group, but there’s a lot of phoenix
stuff going on. It was called The Phoenix Gathering.
These are visionaries that came in from all over the world.
And they were kind of... randomly came. They were self-selecting.
There was a dynamically facilitated, very intensive workshop
that lasted here for a week. We had professional facilitators.
We had just lots of ideas thrown out there into the pot.
And the idea was, through democratic discourse could we come
up with a consensus? And the answer was: Well. Yeah. Somewhat. And
I was trying to figure out why couldn’t we come up with
more of a consensus? Of course, you could say the three-letter
But what I was able to observe -- because I spent most the
time observing this, not participating quite so much, although
I was trying to promote free energy as a concept -- but the
group kind of were split about: Well, OK, what do we do
There was one group that I would call the
that was lead by a very articulate lawyer from New York City
who really knew how to do a conference, you know, get a synopsis
together, a précis, like a legal brief... [very
loud birdsong interrupts] Thank you, bird!
So that was one of the pragmatists. Very practical
people. People that were probably more into bargaining right
now, saying: Well,
maybe solar will do it. Maybe Obama will do it, using existing
And by the way, I wrote a public appeal, an open appeal, to
Obama from a very concerned citizen about some of these questions,
that the kind of change... he talks about change... that
his kind of change is more incremental and at most structural.
And what I’m talking about is systemic change,
even going beyond: Well, let’s go back to the Constitution.
Let’s restore the Clinton-Roosevelt-Keynesian kind of
plans to tinker with the system so we can have the good old
days again, get out of this depression.
That’s what most people think about. And that’s
what I might call structural change. But that’s
not enough, either. It has to be systemic. So whole
new systems need to be defined.
So that’s part of what we were trying to do at the Phoenix
Gathering. But it didn’t come to that. What happened
was that, whenever a bold idea like free energy was presented
to the pragmatists, they said: No, nah. You’ve got
to prove it to me. If there’s one ready at K-Mart I’ll
go and pick it up for myself.
So those people weren’t really very useful in that kind
of discussion. And they’re not. They were kind of forced
into that discussion because it was an intensive workshop,
so they had to put up with some of my blithering about it.
So those were the pragmatists.
Then there were what you would call the spiritualists.
These are people that see the big picture, people that come
from a very spiritual, holistic perspective. That would include... like
we had a couple of healers in the group, and you know, I really
resonate with that as well.
These are people who are very, very... Well, they’re
quite accepting of these kinds of things. But at the same time,
they’re not very powerful politically and they’re
only part of the democratic process. So they’re the spiritualists.
Then there were the deep ecologists. Now these are
the people that really thought the Earth was ruined, the sky
was falling. And by the way, there’s a tremendous amount
of validity with each point of view, I think.
So we heard from the deep ecologists. And one of
them was so angry -- but he’s very angry about the state
of the Earth. Justifiably, he’s going through the anger
phase of grief such that he steamed out of the conference.
He just exited just like that, he was so angry. He was just
taking it out on, you know, the other people around there.
Because it was pretty intimate. You know, it’s 25 people,
we’re sitting around a circle and interacting, whatever.
And then there was a fourth group: Ahh... the truth-seekers.
Now, the pragmatists would call the truth-seekers paranoids.
Or conspiracy theorists. I call them the truth-seekers. These
are people that really want to know what’s going on.
But, you know, it’s really hard to know. And, as a trained
scientist it’s very hard. I had great trouble putting
up my own discriminator and being able to vet this or that
idea. And there were a lot of ideas thrown out there, so it
takes a great deal of study – why I need a research assistant!
Anyway, it takes a great deal of study to be able to effectively
vet this or that concept.
Well, that’s what truth-seeking is all about. And I
know that Kerry and Bill and George have all done wonderful
jobs in trying to uncover the truth. And that’s going
to be a theme, a very important theme, in this conference.
And I went away from the conference, The Phoenix Gathering,
thinking: Well, all four cultures are represented but very
few of the people there represented more than one of those
cultures. And wouldn’t it be nice in a better world to
bring them together and not to deny the existence of another
It’s like Israel / Palestine, I guess. It’s sort
of like you’ve got to be able to embrace the other cultures.
That’s one kind of nugget I came up with and I think
as we come together in communities...
And by the way, the most significant conclusion of The Phoenix
Gathering was re-localization. I mean, that’s the common
denominator, I think, of just about any kind of sentient gathering
that’s going on these days. It makes so much sense. Grow
your own food, just be local in everything. Form community,
barter, local currency, so forth and so on. I love those ideas.
And it’s not to deny them; it’s just that sometimes
some of the other ideas fall through the cracks. So, in any
kind of democratic discourse in the future, it would be really
good for people to learn to tolerate and understand the other
cultures as well.
And in a way I think I identify much more with indigenous
cultures than I do with the western culture, as we spend more
and more time here in Ecuador.
Anyway, I thank you for you patience. And I think I’m
going to give the floor over to George after a quick stretch