Cassidy (KC): Good morning. This is Kerry Cassidy
and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot, and we're here with Duncan
O'Finioan. It's Monday, April 13th, 2009. Hello Duncan, and
it's lovely to talk to you.
O'Finioan (DO’F): It's great to be back
with you guys.
KC: We're going to go into some of the things that you've
been experiencing lately and try to kind of “catch up” because
it's been quite a while since we've spoken. We're going to
be talking about some things that are going to be on record
here, and then there also will be some asides that will be
What's going on with myself and some others that came out
of some of these projects is not supposed to happen. We've
always known that I have one embedded alternate personality
which we now know has a name. And that name is Omega Unit
One-Nine-Seven. That's its designated name. We just call
The alternate personalities were the torture-based integrated
personalities created by the government scientists, or the
mil lab scientists, that were used on various black operations.
But what is happening is, these alternate personalities are
becoming self-aware. Almost like a computer becoming self-aware.
You see, one personality was not supposed to be in touch with
the other personality. We were supposed to switch. The words,
symbols, signals, tones, sound, etcetera. But some of us are
starting to switch on a daily basis. I'm switching without
realizing it. It doesn't take the fight-or-flight syndrome
to make me switch anymore. Could be a glitch in the original
programming. I definitely believe it's something that was completely
unforeseen by the original programmers.
We have found four distinct personalities in me. You know,
I have the one that's talking now, I have One-Nine-Seven, I
have a little boy. And, what we've been able to ascertain is
that the little boy is who... the personality is who I was
at the moment of the split. So the little boy's just like lost
in there. Then there's one that we call the berserker,
and that personality is damn near animalistic.
(BR): To use the words from The Hulk movie,
that you wouldn't want to make angry, right?
Right. That one manifested a couple of months ago, and the
only thing it wanted to know was: What
were the orders. And when no orders to be given, it went
back to sleep.
like you're at the bottom of a deep, deep well. Part of this
is probably my hearing problem. I'm having a lot of pain
in my ears the past couple 'a days.
sorry to hear that, Duncan. I remember that you told us that
you were having this progressive problem when we first met
you a couple 'a years ago.
It's been progressively, month after month, just getting
you say: What we have found... who
is “we”? Is this a group of you who have been through
the same program, who've been comparing notes? Or is some professional
who understands this stuff in a position to help you, or to
help you all? Can you tell us a little bit about how
it is that you've come to do this research on yourself and
DO’F: To answer your first question -- Both.
There is a small group of us who came out of these other projects.
One that I'm working with now, I actually helped train. And
we were on various assignments together and share a lot of
the absolute same memories, and we each have separate memories
that we're still working on. We also have a professional psychologist,
who is an expert in multiple personality disorder, who has
worked with black operations people in the past.
exactly what's going on and he has been a tremendous help.
So I have someone else that's a psychologist that we're working
with as well, who is a very close friend of the one lady
that I worked with. She's the one who connected us together.
It’s getting scary, guys. [laughs] It's like some of
these alternate personalities have their own agendas.
it possible that this is a sign of health though, actually,
that these walls are breaking down and that you're starting
to become aware of... you know, exactly what's going on and
that maybe the personalities themselves might...? If you're
saying their becoming self aware, are they becoming aware
of each other?
DO’F: Yes. Exactly right. And it's almost like
we're communicating with each other. The only way to tell,
now... At one time, years ago, if I switched to One-Nine-Seven,
it was obvious. All right? Even when One-Nine-Seven spoke,
it was obvious. There was no accent, no nothing. But the eye
color would always change. Now, that is basically the only
thing this personality cannot hide -- is the changing of
the eye color. He is able to switch so completely and so covertly,
unless you notice the eye change, you can't tell.
this understood, Duncan, how it is that the eye changes color?
'Because that's like a micro-version of shape-shifting, isn't
it? It implies that there's a DNA structural change going
on, happening at a moment's notice, which is what some people
say is impossible. Do you understand this at all?
do. I do, but I have multiple witnesses who sit there and
say: My God, your eyes turned bright
green. My eyes are not green [laughs], but when I switch
personalities, my eyes turn green. Right now it's a fight of
trying to keep the different personalities under control, and
to figure out exactly what it is they want.
seem to have their own agendas. To what those agendas are,
we just don't know at this time. We don't know if those agendas
are good or bad. But we do know that they're not under the
control of mil labs. My honest guess -- and
I'll say it for the recordthey want revenge. They want payback.
this something that the other people that you're with are
also experiencing in terms of this other... their other personalities
are. Yes. Absolutely.
I... I don't know if this can be on record and you can tell
me, 'cause I think you might know Daniel McB. I call him
Daniel McB. You know who I'm speaking of?
Is he one of those people?
that I'm aware of. Dan B and I have spoken many times. We've
met face to face a few times. I am not aware that he... his
alternate personality is manifesting at this time.
BR: I heard that there was to have been a radio program
that was going... have called you and you weren't available.
They couldn't get hold of you. But Dan came on instead, and
he was described on the internet as Dan Doe -- like John
Doe, but Dan Doe -- and that he told his story on the radio
instead. And that was a relatively short time ago, but I haven't
listened to that yet. I've got it marked for listening.
I remember that. That wasn't this last time I was in the
Islands, it was actually the time before. I've been traveling
to St Thomas very frequently here the past few months
not on St Thomas now, right?
DO’F: No. I'm
in Kentucky now.
like what you guys and I were trying to do, which's to set
up a phone call while I was down there and, for whatever
reason, that neither side could get a call through. They
called Dan, and Dan took the show for me that night. I have
not listened at all to the program. Ah... quite frankly,
I never listen to myself talk.
you know why you're going to St Thomas? Because, in our interview
with you originally, and Corso, St Thomas was where
you were recognized. Originally you didn't know why you were
recognized there, but it was a fascinating incident -- a
number of incidents -- that went on there. It's certainly
a military enclave and I'm wondering if you know why it is
you're going there?
know exactly why. That reason is two-fold. We'll get the
simple one out of the way first. It's business. I have a
more than partial interest. I own full power of attorney
over a section of property down there on Smith Bay, that
has rental houses on it, that I'm in charge of. The main
reason is the island of St Thomas is One-Nine-Seven's
home. That's where he was created. That's where he's from.
One-Nine-Seven was created?
That's where the splitting process took place.
see. So One-Nine-Seven goes back there. Do you think that
there is a... maybe there's a scalar frequency being beamed
at you to bring out these personalities? Or perhaps programming
that's going on when you're in St Thomas? Do you have
missing time at all when you're there?
Not missing time. As far as the scalar waves or electronic
emissions, I would agree with that. What a lot of people
don't know is [laughs] just to the west of St Thomas,
of course, is Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has the largest underwater
submarine base in the world. Not well known, but it is a
People who know me down there, and who also know me here,
have made the comment numerous times that when I go to Saint
Thomas I'm like a kid on the island. You know, I'm no longer
48, nearly 49 years old. I'm 15-16 again. I'm like a kid, you
know? It's like everything just lifts off of me. The island
has... It has almost a magical feel. If that makes any sense,
and, not just...
you think that this feel is a result of programming? I mean...
islands, theoretically, are nice places. However, is it possible
that this is an implant to make you feel that it is, you
know, a lovely wonderful place, to attract you back to it
DO: It is. That's very possible. You know, I've been
to Puerto Rico many times. I lived right on the ocean more
than once. I've been to some other islands. I don't have the
same feeling that I have when I'm in St Thomas. It could
be a fact that, you know, I have memories of being a kid -- of
being a small boy -- on St Thomas, and, I think it's
It's a combination of things, but I think it comes back to
that is where the traumatic personality split first took place.
When I was a child was in St Thomas. Not on St Thomas
proper... it was on one of the channel islands that's around.
Ah... the building actually still stands, and it's government
property, cordoned off. No one's allowed over there, but I'm
workin' on it.
So, are you feeling that if these personalities are starting
to come through on their own... is it making you uncomfortable?
Are you feeling that there is communication such that you,
Duncan that I'm talking to, can calmly say: One-Nine-Seven,
down! if One-Nine-Seven is aggravated, or something like
That's the 64-thousand-dollar-question, girl. [laughs]
DO’F: Umm, I was told -- let me preface it
with this -- I was told a couple 'a years ago by someone
that if I could not reconcile the two personalities then I
would probably die. Well, I think that's happening. There's
a lot of things going on at the subconscious level that my
conscious level isn't aware of until after it's done, once
it's completed. I think what has to happen -- what must
take place is -- a total merging of these two personalities.
other two that have manifested... Geez, I don't
know what to do with those. The berserker is frightening. Extremely
frightening. The little boy, I can deal with. And... going
back to Dan Doe, when he was here and we spent three days together,
he wanted to go to the gym where I worked out so he could observe,
and he did.
was witness to my eye color changing. So I shifted from this
personality to One-Nine-Seven personality during a heavy
lift, and... he saw it! He commented. He said: Dude,
your eyes just changed. But to me it was like everything
was in slow motion, you know. It's a really weird feeling.
saying... When he said: Dude, your eye
color just changed, he's talking to the Duncan that
I'm talking to right now, isn't he? And then... But what's
happening is that you've already changed over to One-Nine-Seven,
so One-Nine-Seven is receiving the speech, right? So...
does One-Nine-Seven react to that information?
see, the thing they have to keep in mind is that One-Nine-Seven
hears and sees everything that I did. He's completely aware
of everything that's going on.
DO’F: What happened that day, I was doing a heavy
bench press. And once I got... jacked the weight up, and started
to bring it down, he said my eyes changed. And then I pressed
it up, re-racked the weight and sat up, and my eyes went back
to normal. One-Nine-Seven manifested, pressed the weight -- did
the lift -- and then went back. Because I don't think I
could have done that lift by myself.
see. So it was like an adrenaline shift.
And then he went on to talk about Theta waves and what-not,
and I'm totally lost on that. Um... [laughs] I'm trying to
research it but I'm not a scientist.
you are working with, as you say, a psychologist?
he regress you at all? Does he use that kind of therapy?
would take you back to either incidents in this life, and/or,
even a prior life?
DO’F: No. We tried that once several years ago -- I
think I mentioned that -- and One-Nine-Seven manifested
and was going to kill the hypnotherapist.
It most definitely... That needs to be done. But at the same
time, I don't think it can be done unless I am... severely secured.
I'm assuming that some of the other people in your group
are... You said their other personalities are spontaneously
coming forward as well, and that vengeance is their agenda?
Is that true?
That seems to be, but not the kind of vengeance of Go out and raise bloody hell and mayhem.
More to the point, I think, of vengeance of let's bring this
out, let's pull these people out of the rabbit-hole and hold
'em up for everybody to see. More of that kind of vengeance
because, you know, our alternate personalities are extremely
intelligent. Much more intelligent than we are in our born
So they look at things more analytical. They break things
apart much more than we do. And they're very much aware that
to just go out and cause bloody mayhem would serve absolutely
no purpose. It would not serve their purpose, for sure.
want the truth. They want these things exposed. But at the
same time that my alternate -- and some of the other
peoples’ alternates -- are seeking that type of retribution.
We have a... God, the easiest way to explain it... We have
a protection-type feeling that we also have a higher purpose.
And that is to protect. Protect who? Protect what? We'll find
out, you know, we're trying to find out.
sounds, Duncan, as if the One-Nine-Seven personality is more
like Jason Bourne in the movie. Would that be a rough analogy?
I didn't quite...
doesn't go to movies, so he might not know, Bill, if you
Bourne. I've never seen the movies.
know about them. I've been told about them, but I've never
in many ways, you are like...
comments were just a...
Jason Bourne in the sense only that he was an agent who got
amnesia, but he would actually kind of click over into that
personality. But he didn't know his... the origin. So in
many ways he was like you. It's like a fictional version
of some of the things you've told us about.
was suggesting that Jason Bourne sounded more like One-Nine-Seven,
actually, 'cause Jason Bourne... like, he'll kill if he has
to. He wants to find out what the hell happened to him. He's
very analytical. He's very determined. He keeps on going
like The Terminator. He's determined
to find the truth. He's a much higher-ability person than most
of the people around him, and he's very relentless. And...
it just sounded a little bit like that personality type that's
what you were describing One-Nine-Seven to be. That's why I
made the link.
DO’F: Okay, yeah. That clicks with me. I can understand
that. That has actually been mentioned to me before. And the
one distinction that always comes to mind with the differences -- as
I was told by several people who watched the movie -- is
that he's finally told that he, as an adult, volunteered for
the program. The difference between that and us is: we were
kids and we didn't volunteer.
And it's very...
and graphically described by you in our video interview of
you which, if anyone's listening to this, I encourage them
to go back and watch that, which is really fabulous. But,
quite right, you didn't volunteer. And we do remember that.
So, Duncan, what're you seeing right now, because you're...
I'm not sure. Do you consider yourself a trained remote viewer,
or is the psychic part of your ... ah... sort of warrior
personality? More something that you've developed, but it's
not specifically a remote viewer?
DO: I would have to classify myself as a remote viewer
of -- using the scale of one to ten -- about a one. [laughs]
I suck. I'm terrible. I get what is more commonly known as
peek psychic impressions. I'll see images. I'll see events
happening. Maybe only a brief glimpse of something that I have
to sit down and dissect and take it apart, and figure out exactly
what it was that I saw.
One-Nine-Seven a remote viewer and/or psychic?
One-Nine-Seven is extremely psychic. Much more so than I
BR: Just a couple of days ago I listened to Ed Dames
being interviewed on Coast to Coast, and many of the people
listening to this would be familiar with Ed Dames' work. And
he was asked by George Noory whether he used psychics in his
remote viewing program. And Ed Dames said -- and it's really
very interesting -- he said: Psychics are not the same
as remote viewers.
He said psychics are either completely on, or way off, and
they can't always tell the difference. They don't use a methodology.
Things just come to them spontaneously, and they almost have
no control over this. He said remote viewing is a technology
that can be taught. And Ed Dames said that he doesn't use psychics
in his remote viewing program because their actually harder
to train because they keep on going off on their own intuitions
without actually using the methodology.
I thought that was a very interesting distinction to make,
and I would certainly regard you as being psychic, and not
someone who wants to get involved with very black and white,
linear remote viewing protocols. That's not really your style.
it isn't. I've tried remote viewing, you know. I've listened
to Ed off and on for a few years. Ah... I have my own opinions
about [laughs] Ed Dames, but, what he said is essentially
But I will
say, however, that a lot of psychics, what they see is absolutely
spot-on. Where they make the mistake is trying to put a date
to it, or an exact location. Putting a date on a vision is
something that's damn near impossible. Unless you see the
date -- you happen to see a newspaper or something
of that nature with the date on it -- it's almost impossible.
I took a class from Ed Dames, and I have to say that I have
studied remote viewing on and off besides that, and I have
to say that he also stresses that even remote viewers have
a very hard time finding dates for anything. So it's actually
difficult, regardless of what method you use. But I also know
that that's not completely true.
Ed Dames does use psychics, and as a matter of fact, Ingo [ed.
note: Ingo Swan] was a very well-developed psychic who,
you know, he's in essence, you might say, the father of remote
viewing. And many remote viewers are natural psychics and
they... Pat Price was a natural psychic. He was one of the
first remote viewers. Joseph McMoneagle is a natural psychic.
I mean, the best remote viewers are often natural psychics
as well. So what he's doing... a certain amount of dissembling
there, I would say.
DO’F: I can put my side of it together in a nice
little nutshell. I'm a terrible remote viewer, but I do receive
tremendous amount of psychic impressions. I do get glimpses
of things, like on a daily basis, and I will follow them. I'll
turn left when I normally turn right, that kind of thing. If
I shake hands with someone, I'll get an impression of what's
really in their mind. I don't hear their thoughts. I don't
read minds. I get impressions. I get pictures. I get what I
Like when we did that first interview... remember when I asked
you, I said: Are you thirsty and you said: Yes. When
I looked at you, I got a flash -- an image -- of a Pepsi.
Now, it was my interpretation that, you know, what I interpreted
it be is, that you were thirsty.
KC: Right. And actually there’s where the psychic
part can break down because I don’t drink Pepsi, so,
what you did was transpose it into what you drink. I totally
get that and I do remember that incident, which, you know...
It’s obvious that you are psychic when one meets you,
and sort of talks with you, and so on. And with the Celtic
and the Native American backgrounds -- those two put together -- obviously
you were chosen, in part, for those... some of those qualities.
we were. But however, I will say, in 1966 when I was taken
in... You know, a lot more memories have bubbled up to the
surface since we did that interview. And I do remember children
from various ethnic origins. We all -- all of
us -- weren’t Native American and Celtic mixed. But
we were the predominant species.
Can you tell us more about maybe some incidents or some realizations
that have come to you that might be interesting for the listeners
DO: Well I think the biggest realization that
I've had to come to terms with and to deal with is that my
father turned me over to this project. It was, ah... [emotional
pause] quite unnerving to find out -- on the island of Saint
Thomas, by the way -- that my father was a CIA asset, an
agent, and that he basically gave the OK for me to be taken
He took me to have the test administered, and I obviously
passed the test, and we've had some thoughts on that, that
I'll get into in just a moment. When he... He may not have
been able to have said No. However, I do hold the
grudge that, as I became older, he could have talked to me
about it, but he chose not to. That's one of the things.
Let me get this while it's fresh in my mind. Remember the
puzzle... The picture on the puzzle, that I had to put together,
was the double helix, the DNA molecule. Yeah, I put the piece
together. However, there is a running theory that some of us
have that it wasn't so much that we got the puzzle together
correctly, but that we were able to pick up the psychic impressions
from the test administrator.
how to do so?
a running theory that we have right now.
Very interesting. So that means that, you know, your psychic
ability was a very big part of why you were selected, is
what you're saying?
DO’F: Right. And I do remember vividly most of
the other kids were spending more time laughing, talking, playing
with each other, while I was totally focused and concentrating
on what I was doing. That adds a little more credence to the
fact that the lady -- who we now know’s name is Elsa -- was
probably broadcasting some kind of thought image to see who
could pick it up. That was the... actually the real test.
makes sense, Duncan, because I remember very clearly when
you did your interview a couple of years ago, although there
were so many things to talk about and think about I didn't
pick it up with you at the time, but I remember thinking: Well, okay, there's a kid solving a puzzle here. And
I remember you reporting that this woman said: Hey, we've
got one -- or words to that effect.
I remember thinking: Well, what's so special
about a kid solving a puzzle? You know, kids solve puzzles
all the time.
you're saying that, actually, it was quite a simple puzzle
but what she was actually doing, she was directing you and
you were following her directions, andthat's how she knew
that she'd got one.
Because while I was doing the puzzle she was standing behind
me. By this time she had... She was totally ignoring the
other kids. She was standing behind me, focusing on me. Also,
I remember my mother was focusing on me as well.
mother was very psychic as well, 'cause she was full-blooded
Cherokee. And she would have dreams, visions, hints -- like
90 percent of them would turn out to be true. My father's grandfather
was supposed to have been a Celtic Druid. So when you put those
two bloodlines together, I guess, they got what they were looking
Very interesting. So what is your psychic intuition telling
you nowadays about the current times, what we're going through
here in the United States, as well as the possible future?
ready to run [laughing]. It's going to get bad. That has
been there for some time, and it hasn't left. Whew... It's
going to get nasty.
you describe it a little more specifically? I know you live
in the middle of the country. Are you planning to stay there?
You once told us the best thing to do during these times
was to be mobile. Do you still feel that way?
DO’F: I do. Be prepared to be mobile. What I have
been seeing are cities and towns in total darkness, on fire,
with people screaming. Some people just... have just laid down
in the street and just refused to get up. Um... some of them
are very frightened, and in the darkness and the smoke there
is something that is coming through. It's very bad -- very
evil -- but I can't see what it is. This isn't any one particular
city or town. This is pretty much going to be everywhere.
presume that you haven't got a time on this?
date? No. Only an impression. The impression is more intense
now than it was the last we spoke. That it's... It's getting
closer. You know, I wish I could just say: Okay,
on this date, this is what's going to happen, but I can't.
Also, there's going to be a major political uprising in this
country. This country, politically, is going to split right
down the seams -- it's going to tear itself in half -- and
I think that will happen within the next two years.
Everybody... One of the things that a lot of people ask me
about is 2012. Yeah, we are headed towards a culmination of
events. I will not venture out and say that it will happen
exactly on 2012. The reason I say that is due to the differences
in calendars. No one can tell me exactly what today is. They
can tell me what today is with the Julian calendar, an Aztec
calendar, a Chinese calendar. But no one can actually tell
me what today actually is. So whatever's coming may be 2011,
2012, 2013, 2014 [laughs] and on it goes. But it is coming.
other people that you're, you know... You're sort of in a
group now that you're talking about. Maybe you're in contact
with others that are like yourself. Are they also seeing
things in the future? Do you compare notes at all?
do. Some of us speak almost on a daily basis. One of the
strongest psychics that I've ever known in my life has given
more than one warning against... I've never known her to
be wrong. She said, and I'll quote her: An
evil wind does blow, and it's not going to stop. She's
flat told me: Get ready. I can't see what it is. I don't
know what it is, but it's comin' and it's almost here.
you feel like, possibly, your personality One-Nine-Seven
could have been created in part to deal with those times
in some form or fashion?
That's one of the things that we've been discussing. Ah...
Yeah. We do. You know, like I've said, these people who created
us were evil geniuses. There's no doubt about that. But even
a genius can be wrong. There are things that have transpired
with these alternate personalities that, we believe, where
completely unforeseen by the creators. They've unleashed
a Pandora's Box.
When they opened us up and let us out of Pandora's Box we
were used for some very explicit evil deeds. There's no doubt
about that, and we're learning to deal with that. But, if everyone
remembers the story of Pandora's Box, the last thing to exit
the box was hope. So that's what we're putting together with
the skills that we were ingrained with, trained and taught,
is hope. To try to turn it around, do a complete 180, and use
what we can to help. We'll just see how successful we are.
BR: The group that you're working with... Because of
the emails that we get about this subject, people having told
us that they watched your interview, and I remember one of
the words that somebody said that -- it was really
quite chilling -- they said that they felt that you were
telling their story on their behalf. We've had several messages
like that. You must get more than we do.
How many people are there out there who've been through your
program, and you've shared your experiences, who have contacted
you over the last couple of years? What's the order of magnitude?
Is it hundreds? How many people are there?
have been contacted by many.
I would say... Contacted personally? Close to a hundred. Some
of these people are in the group that we formed. Essentially
what I am, I'm the mouth-piece for the group, and I personally
think they should've chosen someone else. I have a tendency
to go overboard occasionally. I do have a temper, even in this
In some interviews I have not been so kind with some callers.
People would come in with really overboard, off the wall narcissistic
questions [laughs] and I haven't been really kind. But it's
a job that I've been stuck with and I will continue to do the
best I can do.
on your question... Oh, I... My project with 1966 -- I
am what is known as "second generation". I was contacted
by someone who was in a very, very similar project in the 1950s.
He would have been first generation. One of the people in our
group was right after me. She was third generation. Another
person in our group was about fifteen years later. That person's
fourth generation. So you see the progression. It hasn't stopped.
And the implication, Duncan, is that if you've been contacted,
let's say, by the best part of a hundred people, it doesn't
take much for you and I to figure out that there must be
thousands out there.
DO’F: I would have to say yes. As a matter of
fact, Dan -- who we discussed earlier -- has estimated,
from information that he has received from one of his "CIA
contacts" , there's an estimated one million of us in
one form or another. Not necessarily as trained, or put through
what we have gone through, but a million like us.
In like ways.
assume that these, then, are the products of the experimental
technologies of different countries, not just the United
States. Is that correct?
is correct. These experiments and projects are not just home
to the U.S. No, they've been worldwide. As a matter of fact
I was contacted by someone in Russia who said that he was
part of a very like project there.
KC: Isn't it true, though -- and obviously Daniel
should speak for himself here -- but my understanding is
that he feels that he was genetically engineered, in part,
to be... In other words, it wasn't just training. There was
actually genetic engineering that went on even, I guess, possibly
before birth. Is that your understanding?
is. It is. We've discussed that. There's also been talk that
the genetic engineering part started even in the first generation.
As far as I'm concerned, which is actually the only one that
I can truly speak for in this matter, I've been augmented.
That much I know. My adrenal glands are much larger than
normal. My bone density and mass is much more than normal.
That's why I've never had a [laughs] major broken bone before.
KC: So, in other words, your mother, when she conceived
you, could have participated -- maybe unknowingly -- in
some kind of genetic program.
DO’F: I'll tell you what one of our remote viewers
said, and I think since you've studied remote viewing, you
probably know. Remote viewing is not only in the future and
the present, it can also go backwards. They saw my mother in
a hospital, the egg was removed, was injected and then re-implanted.
So if that is true -- and I'm preferencing -- that if that
is true, then yes, definitely, I was genetically altered.
KC: Yeah. I think that, in a certain sense...
Now again, I don’t know, would you consider yourself
DO’F: I’ve given that a tremendous amount
of thought and, with what I know now, even more so than when
we did the first interview, I would have to say yes. Now, a
hybrid to what? [Kerry laughs] that’s the question.
KC: Right. Well, my understanding is... I mean, all
of humanity is a hybrid in one form or another because we’ve
been through so many different genetic engineerings, if you
will. But you specifically, in a group of you, you’re
not unlike Dan Sherman, who you... I don’t know if you
ever saw his interview that we did with him. He was specifically
engineered -- genetically engineered. He has his own evidence
of that with his mother. But he was specifically engineered
to communicate with ETs on a psychic and intuitive level.
DO’F: You know, I’ve
been asked that question a lot: Where do I fit in with ETs and the visitors and
what-not? I’m up front. I don’t know.
DO’F: I have no memory of ever being on an alien
craft, or being face to face with one, or anything like that.
And I’ve said it publicly before. Do I believe in extraterrestrial
life? Yes. I do. I mean, my god, go out on a clear night and
take a look! [laughter] I mean, look up! I mean, to say that
this little ball of rock floating around Sol is
the only place with life on it -- or intelligent life -- in
this vastness. That’s just not logical.
KC: When you’re
in St Thomas, are you aware of... As you said, you are
aware of certain, maybe, directional scalar influences possibly
being aimed at you. I know that we were interviewing
you with Corso and there was a very clear pulse that
hit the stereo when it was turned off when we were... actually
during the interview. When you’re on St Thomas are
you seeing, number one, maybe an unusual amount of craft in
the sky and/or activity? Are you just aware of activity there
that might be unusual or different than, possibly, what you
find around you when you’re in the U.S.?
DO’F: Yeah, actually, that’s a good question.
Two things. It seems like... the time the plane lands till
the plane takes off, I have a headache. It’s not a migraine.
It’s nothing I need to take a break from. But it’s
right there. It’s right in the center of my forehead
the whole entire time I’m on island.
other thing is: someone made a comment that there’s
always a very large Coast Guard ship in dock when I’m
there [laughs] with some real big, high-gain antennas on it.
[Kerry laughs] And it’s never there, unless I’m
Are you aware of any underground activity there?
DO’F: Well, probably so. A lot of people may not
know about the island of St Thomas. It’s a mountain
island. The property that I have is on the top of the second
highest mountain there. You go up on top and you can see the
entire island. So I would have to say: Probably so. There’s
probably underwater connecting tunnels to some of the channel
islands that dot that whole area. I’ll send you guys
some pictures and you’ll see what I’m talkin' about.
KC: Well if there’s
a submarine... You said the largest submarine base in the
world is in between there and Puerto Rico?
DO’F: No. It’s
actually off the coast of Puerto Rico.
off the northern coast.
wondered, because you said you had a property there on Saint
Thomas, if this was one of your plan B's in
case anything gets too rough in America, then you’ve
got somewhere to go if you have to leave the mainland. I wondered
if you were thinking that far ahead.
DO’F: Oh, I have, I have. It’s funny. I
have more friends on St Thomas than I do in the States,
actually. My attorney’s on St Thomas. I actually have
some relatives on St Thomas. There are records of my family
doing land transactions on that island dating back to the 1780s.
If I had not seen those with my own eyes I would not have believed
it. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. It’s 1840s. The
1780s is when they... Captain Fanning, an ancestor of mine,
founded the Fanning Island, which is on the other side of the
world. He was a pirate, okay? [laughter] He was about as scandalous
as he could be. [laughs]
interesting. Yeah. Actually, if you have family records on
St Thomas, it might also explain how they might have found
you, assuming that you were not genetically implanted. Because
it seems like St Thomas is some kind of a base.
definitely. Most definitely. St Thomas and St Croix. St
Croix is also a refueling base, as well as a large Air Force
contingent. Puerto Rico has a... [laughs] one of the largest
military presence per capita than any other place on the
mainland USA. They have a Naval base, Air base, Army base,
Marine base. You name it, they’ve got a base
BR: We’ve had a number of people who’ve
written to us, having seen your first video when you described
how were in the MRI machine, and it started to pick up this
implant that was in your head and the thing caught fire. A
number of people have said to us: Hey, wait a minute. An
MRI machine doesn’t catch fire. Did he really mean an
MRI machine? Or is this a different kind of machine that I
don’t know about? Is there any clarification that
you can offer on that?
DO’F: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It wasn’t the
actual machine, it was the control panels. What I was told
later on after that, is that there was feedback. If I’m
understanding this correctly, an MRI machine acts just a little
like radar when it reads the image back, and that’s what
happened. It wasn’t exactly the machine itself, if that
makes any sense.
clarifies things a lot, actually, for the more technically-minded
people out there. Because an MRI machine is a Magnetic Resonance
Imager. It works on magnetic resonance.
it was resonating magnetically with something, then I could
imagine some kind of a resonance pulse would set up, that
actually would create problems.
What happened is, there were no problems. When they pushed
me back into the tunnel there was no problem. They started
talking to me... no problem. Then as soon as that thing started
to spin and make the sound, when the magnetic waves begin
to start, it was like someone drove a hot spike through my
That’s when I started seeing all the images, all the
memories, all the blood, the gut, the mayhem... the whole gauntlet,
and I came out absolutely screaming. I could smell the smoke.
The techs and the nurses were trying to get hold of me, get
a handle on me and calm me down which, I was told, was extremely
hard to do [laughs] ’cause I was... It was like somebody
on a... having a total breakdown. I remember screaming.
sounds like one of the kind of experiences that could have
triggered one of your other personalities at that time.
true. Very true.
BR: Okay. Thanks for clarifying that, Duncan. I’ve
got a final question. How do you see, or how would you like
to see, your own life playing out in the next few years? What
do you see ahead of you? Because you’re here as a Warrior,
not just for the military, but for the human race and representing
this bunch of people who want you to be their spokesman, and
their leader, and their representative. And you’ve played
a hero for all here. So you’re fighting a fight, but
not in the way that the military intended you to. How do you
see things playing out in the next few years for yourself?
DO: What I’d like to see, and what I have seen,
is two entirely different things. What I would like to see
is some admissions by some governments that these operations
took place, are taking place and they stop -- and just have
some peace and watch the kids grow up -- two acres, the
lawn and have a little woodworking shop or something. That’s
what I would like. But that’s not what I’ll ever
have seen is myself and others of the group leading groups
of people to safety. That’s what I’ve seen.
That’s also what some of the other people in the group
have seen. ‘Cause it’s going to get so hot.
I think the times are coming, right?
DO’F: Definitely. And they’re coming a lot
faster than some people realize. When they start it’s
going to be like a domino effect, you know...
DO’F: ...once the precursor hits, and the precursor’s
going to be a total split in the political system in this country.
That’s going to happen. And once that happens... [sighs]
all bets are off. It’s going to be crazy.
KC: Yeah. I think... I’ve seen one version of
that myself. So... Okay. Thank you, Duncan. That’s rather
a sobering ending for this brief chat we’ve been having
with you. But I do appreciate the vision. It’s quite
interesting. We’re looking forward to having you at our
conference. It’s very exciting to know that you’re
going to speak to the people. That’s just going to be
wonderful. Thank you very much for connecting with us here.
This is a rare treat for us to be able to really connect with
you, and then at the same time actually be able to record it
so that we can share it with others.
I appreciate it. Thank you two guys very much.
BR: This is a very good one, Duncan. You’re
a star. Thank you so much for spending your time here.
problem, guys. Anything for you guys.
bless you, and you take care of yourself and take care of
anybody else you can.
do as well, bud.
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